Either way you end up in the same place unless you think it's our duty to pull these people out of their own troubles...Which I suspect you do not...

@randomNPCno3 blacks did better under Jim Crow because whites used authoritarianism to FORCe black to live according to a white social norm. Now that they aren't under that system they have done literally the opposite of what you are suggesting. You can't persuade them to change you can only force them to.

>NOT ALL

^ exactly. Its such a weak position to take, and very delusional.

He conflates specific ideological positions or cultures with the idea that theres predisposition towards belief systems and behaviors

So you'd rather discount any data that disagrees with you?

In regards to what?

@randomNPCno3 The data agrees with me bro.

if you're talking about IQ you're dead wrong

if you're tlaking about voting

@randomNPCno3 nice projection

basically anyone who identifies as non-White votes democrat

I'm talking about your disdain for the not all point

When you're talking about a general trend the exception doesn't prove the rule?

What's your not all data?

@randomNPCno3 people are not individuals so the "not all" point ins total nonsense. The exception does not disprove thee rule.

AMerican blacks don't have an IQ in the 80's?

What are you saying is, "not all"?

Your talking general trend, I'm speaking individuals

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@randomNPCno3 there are no indivuals

The individuals that don't even comprise probably 5% of the whole group

Stop this libertarian nonsense

And that's why group think is shit

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^ explain

Incredulity is not an argument.

Explain how you're not an individual

Do you have no sense of self?

Do mirrors confuse you?

I'm still waiting for what the not all data is

I don't get that comment

this is a tangent again

The fact that collective groups are made of individuals doesn't change any of the facts we've been discussing about IQ, behavior, or anything else...

People are defined by many things. Primarily their genetics since that informes literally every other trait. But also their history and their ancestors history, their political tribe and economic tribe ect. You cannot simply ignore these because you want t be an "individual". These things are Unchanging and have a profound effect on every aspect of human life.

Are you saying Black people are no better than monkies since some apes can pass the mirror test? Pretty spicy take dude...

Explain that acrobatic leap of logic for me

Once again, like your example of your Romanina cousin, this schtick about individuals is a red herring

At what point did I mention blacks

yes groups are made of individuals

those individuals tend to have traits of the group they're from