Message from @Catboi

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2020-02-28 02:24:00 UTC  

so instead of a 70's IQ, they've got an 80's IQ

2020-02-28 02:24:11 UTC  

Does this guy believe in evolution?

2020-02-28 02:24:24 UTC  

He doesn't believe in Race

2020-02-28 02:24:34 UTC  

and wants to go back that people can have their own ideas

2020-02-28 02:25:01 UTC  

and the difference between ideas and actions... as if it makes any difference when we're talking about group behavioral differences, but whatever

2020-02-28 02:25:02 UTC  

If so how can he possibly believe that all races have the same IQ potential or even the same innate behaviours at the same IQ level if they evolved in isolation?

2020-02-28 02:25:20 UTC  

Well, this started because I brought up IQ

2020-02-28 02:25:36 UTC  

because he was denying that any group or person could have a propensity for a certain belief or behavior

2020-02-28 02:25:42 UTC  

specifically in reference to politics

2020-02-28 02:25:54 UTC  

IQ is so important to dispelling the myths of race egalitarianism.

2020-02-28 02:26:16 UTC  

My point of bringing up IQ, was that if you believe in IQ, then you should have no problem understanding how people can have innate behavioral predispositions...

2020-02-28 02:26:51 UTC  

I believe in race, thanks again for putting words in my mouth, I don't believe it makes it impossible to change someone's mind, and yes I believe in evolution

2020-02-28 02:26:54 UTC  

predispositions that might make them say, be more tribal and less trusting of outsiders, or say be more likely to want order and conformity....

2020-02-28 02:27:20 UTC  

You say you believe in race, but every specific thing you say about it you say is, "muh enviornment"

2020-02-28 02:27:35 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 operating politically like changing the behaviour of an entire race is possible or desirable is insane.

2020-02-28 02:27:36 UTC  

not that it really makes a difference for what we see in the world

2020-02-28 02:27:50 UTC  

as I asked, even if it is enviornmental you going to go in and force them all to change?

2020-02-28 02:28:07 UTC  

I'm supposed to accept their bedhavior or be tolerant of them because Thomas Sowell exists?

2020-02-28 02:28:38 UTC  

Either way you end up in the same place unless you think it's our duty to pull these people out of their own troubles...Which I suspect you do not...

2020-02-28 02:29:05 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 blacks did better under Jim Crow because whites used authoritarianism to FORCe black to live according to a white social norm. Now that they aren't under that system they have done literally the opposite of what you are suggesting. You can't persuade them to change you can only force them to.

2020-02-28 02:29:39 UTC  

>NOT ALL

2020-02-28 02:30:05 UTC  

^ exactly. Its such a weak position to take, and very delusional.

2020-02-28 02:30:23 UTC  

He conflates specific ideological positions or cultures with the idea that theres predisposition towards belief systems and behaviors

2020-02-28 02:30:34 UTC  

So you'd rather discount any data that disagrees with you?

2020-02-28 02:30:49 UTC  

In regards to what?

2020-02-28 02:30:51 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 The data agrees with me bro.

2020-02-28 02:30:54 UTC  

if you're talking about IQ you're dead wrong

2020-02-28 02:30:59 UTC  

if you're tlaking about voting

2020-02-28 02:31:09 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 nice projection

2020-02-28 02:31:10 UTC  

basically anyone who identifies as non-White votes democrat

2020-02-28 02:31:15 UTC  

I'm talking about your disdain for the not all point

2020-02-28 02:31:42 UTC  

When you're talking about a general trend the exception doesn't prove the rule?

2020-02-28 02:31:48 UTC  

What's your not all data?

2020-02-28 02:31:57 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 people are not individuals so the "not all" point ins total nonsense. The exception does not disprove thee rule.

2020-02-28 02:32:02 UTC  

AMerican blacks don't have an IQ in the 80's?

2020-02-28 02:32:08 UTC  

What are you saying is, "not all"?

2020-02-28 02:32:10 UTC  

Your talking general trend, I'm speaking individuals

2020-02-28 02:32:18 UTC  

🙄

2020-02-28 02:32:24 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 there are no indivuals

2020-02-28 02:32:32 UTC  

The individuals that don't even comprise probably 5% of the whole group

2020-02-28 02:32:39 UTC  

Stop this libertarian nonsense