Message from @Knefel
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The composite on turret front/side and upper hull can withstand any RPG, including the 29
but lower hull only had 70-80mm steel originally
so they put ERA on it
>originally
Yes, and now it's reinforced.
once that got busted through with a tandem RPG-29 they put a composite block on it
that should stop RPGs
but it's likely not enough against modern russian KE penetrators like Svinets-1 and 2
Russians don't use APFSDS as their main shell
and the are above the driver's hatch is still only steel
ye they do
they have since the T-62
They have and always will focus on ATGM and HEAT-FS
Their ATGM's are by far the most dangerous weapon in their arsenal
125mm tank gun HEAT-FS hasn't changed significantly since the T-64
Um, u wot
gun-launched ATGMs are also mediocore because you can't increase their caliber
They have changed SIGNIFICANTLY
They have triple-charge HEAT-FS
that still does jack shit against western composites
wew lad
since a gun tube or a soldier's carrying capacity doesn't limit their weight or size
The fact you think MBT armor can handle triple-HEAT means your opinion is irrelevant.
It required a complete redesign of ERA panels and their moutings to even begin to counter triple-HEAT warheads.
double and triple warheads are only effective against ERA panels
western MBTs don't rely on ERA
And they also defeat composite armor.
Spacing and ceramic inserts are not invincible
a single-stage warhead is just as effective against NERA and passive composites as a single-staged warhead
Newer triple charges are rated up to nearly 3000mm, including composites.
hwat?
where did you get *that* number
the best HEAT warheads are rated at *maybe* 1500mm
Last I looked there was a triple-HEAT with nearly 3000mm of penetration RHA.
and a 125mm diameter tank-launched one won't even break 1000mm
You can think that all you want until they do.
Chobham-type composites are 3,5 times as effective against HEAT warheads as against kinetic penetrators
since Russian KE penetrators go up to ~900mm of pen, their ATGMs would need to break 3k mm to be *as effective*
and with current tech, to achieve penetration like that you'd need a warhead so massive, you might as well use a 250kg bomb
Well the Russians certainly think they're good enough, and so does NATO.
That's what they want you to thin