Message from @E M P E R O R P Y R O M A N C ER

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2020-01-21 19:16:34 UTC  

Islamic golden age itself had many other discoveries

2020-01-21 19:17:39 UTC  

And inventions

2020-01-21 19:28:39 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-21 19:28:55 UTC  

But a lot of it also came from the ancient Greeks and Byzantines

2020-01-21 19:29:04 UTC  

These are translations

2020-01-21 19:29:37 UTC  

Muslims knew how to value knowlege

2020-01-21 19:30:28 UTC  

@OrthoNinten Yeah there was a lot of translation happening rather then invention that's true, but there's lots of great inventions that it invented.

2020-01-21 19:30:41 UTC  

some source say that 1001 inventions were made

2020-01-21 19:30:52 UTC  

however idk if they were all minors or majors

2020-01-21 21:46:03 UTC  

@Dr. WaveZey Ok i can respond now:
Astronomy isn't that important of a technology. I really don't think it's that important nor is it any measure of superiority. How do you know these irrigation systems were superior to previous European ones? The fact of the matter is no Anglo-Saxon kingdom had the money to spend on huge irrigation projects (because they were all tiny, with low populations and ravaged by constant war). Also, since moroccco is more of a desert, it makes sense they would develop more means to transport water. We're an island, we can just use the sea, lakes or rivers. Ok so one of your guys wrote a big book of agriculture. We didn't do anything like that, because we were too busy wiriting and translating phiolosophical works...that's the main writing which occurred in the middle ages. Did his book really improve how agriculture was done though? Pretty sure simple oral tradition did us fine. As for cataloguing plants and plant diseases...similar to astronomy, sure it's cool, but there are far more important things to know. It's just discovery, not invention or innovation. As for medicine he: "wrote a book with a comprehensive medical encyclopedia with the goal of summarizing all existing medical knowledge and eliminating the need for students and practitioners to rely on multiple medical texts." i.e. he didn't create anything himself: I'm seeing a pattern of your fellows merely discovering things. Where did these texts he was summarizing come from? Were they Arab? Was this other encyclopedia you mention a conglomeration of previous ideas or something new? As for the two books after that, they seem like the medieval equivalent of self-help books. Food and Agriculture: all of this is irrelevant. Having a bunch of exotic foods isn't evidence of superiority in any sense. Biographies likewise are merely discovery
My takeaway from that first bit is this: sure you discovered and catalogued a fuckton, which is certainly respectable, but we made shit.

2020-01-21 21:46:22 UTC  

I'll be back later, I gotta go to the gym

2020-01-21 21:46:36 UTC  

but that Graph referred to 1400- the present

2020-01-21 21:46:40 UTC  

i.e. not the darkages

2020-01-21 21:46:50 UTC  

1400 was late middle ages

2020-01-21 21:47:31 UTC  

also we haven't been nomads for millenia

2020-01-21 21:47:42 UTC  

certainly weren't in the 800s or something

2020-01-21 21:47:50 UTC  

he left the server

2020-01-21 21:47:56 UTC  

And we didn't invent much stuff other than like ships and shit

2020-01-21 21:47:56 UTC  

but i can invite again him or sent that message to him

2020-01-21 21:48:03 UTC  

bruh

2020-01-21 21:48:04 UTC  

its werid he leave the server

2020-01-21 21:48:07 UTC  

yeah so

2020-01-21 21:48:09 UTC  

he left before

2020-01-21 21:48:18 UTC  

I'm gonna DM him

2020-01-21 21:48:34 UTC  

do it

2020-01-23 23:36:44 UTC  
2020-01-23 23:37:02 UTC  

I always thought that it was very rooted in Austria

2020-01-23 23:37:34 UTC  

Yeah Austrofascism is uniquely Austrian

2020-01-23 23:37:37 UTC  

It is in the name lmao

2020-01-23 23:37:47 UTC  

And it is rooted around Austria not being part of Germany

Mainly because I was religious when I started l exploring through NS after reading Mein Kampf and Zweites Buch. I never truly liked NS as a political ideology as I found it to be too confrontational for any proper means of re-implementation into any modern society; thus I found Austrofascism. Yes yes, I am aware of its basis and it's ideology, but I agreed with the philosophy only because I, at the time, saw the open acceptance of religion and non-hatred of race, ethnicity and beliefs as the key to making Fascism rise again. And not to mention I throughly enjoyed the idea of a Corporatist system at the time. I don't inherently agree with my beginning beliefs at this point which is why I am reluctant to even claim to be an Austrofascist whence I am transitioning to Classical Fascism.

2020-01-23 23:44:03 UTC  

Interesting

2020-01-23 23:44:21 UTC  

@𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖊𝕮𝖗𝖊𝖒𝖊 do you still think fascists could be elected?

I do, but only given the right recipe. For example, Poland and some ex-Soviet Bloc nations are ripe with nationalism and conservative views, and I'm willing to argue that Poland is in fact a proto-Fascist state at this point, so I do belief so, the main issue comes down to *where* this occurs. For example I don't believe it'll work in the US, at least on a state or national level, but in my home state of Illinois there was an oddity in which a neo-Nazi had run for state representative and won simply because he had no competition. It's possible but profoundly hard to accomplish.

I'll actually find a link for that guy

2020-01-23 23:50:16 UTC  

I live in eastern Europe (Romania) and here it is impossible to even have a fascist party. There are laws against fascism and anti semitism. I can say there are even against simple nationalism.

Ouch, unlucky bastards you guys are. Perhaps Poland, ironically, will be the one to start the true political movement.

2020-01-24 01:20:21 UTC  

that's a beautiful article