Message from @Rashica

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2020-01-21 19:11:38 UTC  

However, as you even mentioned, in Byzantium they largely did keep their philosophy and advancements

2020-01-21 19:12:02 UTC  

And even made new ones

2020-01-21 19:12:05 UTC  

Like Greek fire

2020-01-21 19:12:15 UTC  

Yum, napalm

2020-01-21 19:12:21 UTC  

No

2020-01-21 19:12:23 UTC  

It isn't napalm

2020-01-21 19:12:29 UTC  

It was different

2020-01-21 19:12:39 UTC  

Nobody knows what it was

2020-01-21 19:12:41 UTC  

I know, i just wanted to make a napalm sticks to kids joke

2020-01-21 19:12:47 UTC  

From what ive seen descriptions

2020-01-21 19:12:54 UTC  

Sounds kinda like thermite

2020-01-21 19:12:59 UTC  

Doesnt go out even with water

2020-01-21 19:13:02 UTC  

Burns for long times

2020-01-21 19:13:05 UTC  

Hmm

2020-01-21 19:13:11 UTC  

Hot to the nth degree

2020-01-21 19:14:42 UTC  

@OrthoNinten like, are you saying they just translated and copied?

2020-01-21 19:16:34 UTC  

Islamic golden age itself had many other discoveries

2020-01-21 19:17:39 UTC  

And inventions

2020-01-21 19:28:39 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-21 19:28:55 UTC  

But a lot of it also came from the ancient Greeks and Byzantines

2020-01-21 19:29:04 UTC  

These are translations

2020-01-21 19:29:37 UTC  

Muslims knew how to value knowlege

2020-01-21 19:30:28 UTC  

@OrthoNinten Yeah there was a lot of translation happening rather then invention that's true, but there's lots of great inventions that it invented.

2020-01-21 19:30:41 UTC  

some source say that 1001 inventions were made

2020-01-21 19:30:52 UTC  

however idk if they were all minors or majors

2020-01-21 21:46:03 UTC  

@Dr. WaveZey Ok i can respond now:
Astronomy isn't that important of a technology. I really don't think it's that important nor is it any measure of superiority. How do you know these irrigation systems were superior to previous European ones? The fact of the matter is no Anglo-Saxon kingdom had the money to spend on huge irrigation projects (because they were all tiny, with low populations and ravaged by constant war). Also, since moroccco is more of a desert, it makes sense they would develop more means to transport water. We're an island, we can just use the sea, lakes or rivers. Ok so one of your guys wrote a big book of agriculture. We didn't do anything like that, because we were too busy wiriting and translating phiolosophical works...that's the main writing which occurred in the middle ages. Did his book really improve how agriculture was done though? Pretty sure simple oral tradition did us fine. As for cataloguing plants and plant diseases...similar to astronomy, sure it's cool, but there are far more important things to know. It's just discovery, not invention or innovation. As for medicine he: "wrote a book with a comprehensive medical encyclopedia with the goal of summarizing all existing medical knowledge and eliminating the need for students and practitioners to rely on multiple medical texts." i.e. he didn't create anything himself: I'm seeing a pattern of your fellows merely discovering things. Where did these texts he was summarizing come from? Were they Arab? Was this other encyclopedia you mention a conglomeration of previous ideas or something new? As for the two books after that, they seem like the medieval equivalent of self-help books. Food and Agriculture: all of this is irrelevant. Having a bunch of exotic foods isn't evidence of superiority in any sense. Biographies likewise are merely discovery
My takeaway from that first bit is this: sure you discovered and catalogued a fuckton, which is certainly respectable, but we made shit.

2020-01-21 21:46:22 UTC  

I'll be back later, I gotta go to the gym

2020-01-21 21:46:36 UTC  

but that Graph referred to 1400- the present

2020-01-21 21:46:40 UTC  

i.e. not the darkages

2020-01-21 21:46:50 UTC  

1400 was late middle ages

2020-01-21 21:47:31 UTC  

also we haven't been nomads for millenia

2020-01-21 21:47:42 UTC  

certainly weren't in the 800s or something

2020-01-21 21:47:50 UTC  

he left the server

2020-01-21 21:47:56 UTC  

And we didn't invent much stuff other than like ships and shit

2020-01-21 21:47:56 UTC  

but i can invite again him or sent that message to him

2020-01-21 21:48:03 UTC  

bruh

2020-01-21 21:48:04 UTC  

its werid he leave the server

2020-01-21 21:48:07 UTC  

yeah so

2020-01-21 21:48:09 UTC  

he left before

2020-01-21 21:48:18 UTC  

I'm gonna DM him

2020-01-21 21:48:34 UTC  

do it