Ave?

Ah alright

Why would they? Aren’t they satisfied with that treaty.

@Deleted User Wellington was above Khalid by a bit

Khalid knocked up 2 superpowers at its time

The Sassanids and the eastern Roman Empire

Alright, you yourself don’t know who he was in the first place. so you can’t judge and say oh well wellington was better.

But I see your point.

Either way, it’s mainly about the legacy these military commanders left in these battles they have fought in. Genghis Khan and Cyrus the great are nice examples.

Not in the number of victories.

oof

Oh boi

no idea

i was doing a server purge

might leave again

@E M P E R O R P Y R O M A N C ER not because its dead lmao

i see it as 8chan but discord version no offence if u find this offensive

@Spanish Inquisition you again..... just scrolling around, Wbu?

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ i assume you are Greek, why would you make fun of Spaniards of getting conquered while Greeks also had their fair share of being controlled by ottomans and rekt by seljuks smh.

Also most of these Arab-Byzantine wars were raids not invasions, except the Umayyads when they tried to siege Constantinople.

Also the inbreeding thing, That’s def not half of the population smh, just because we technically allow cousin marriage doesn’t always mean we have damaged genetics.

Nowadays a country like Iceland has made an app to even prevent that Cus mostly of them are inbreds

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/icelands-no-1-dating-rule-make-sure-youre-not-cousins-1477241937

You guys are just trying to find any minor reason to “prove” that we are inferior<:oh:555739741337812992>

@Afgan Alb hell yeah, they were cool.

A peasant could not provide a nice living to his children

Unlike living near the sultan

Oh and also, they could rise to become viziers they were not always just slodiers

I think all of the ottoman viziers were recruited through devshrime

Being a Janiserry soldier is 100X better then being an average slave, good ol’ America

Didn’t the native Greeks there mostly converted

“Mutts” what is that supposed to mean

Alright

I’m not a Turk btw

No, I’m like 0% turk.

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I dislike them anyway

Most of arabs like them, except the gulf countries.

And they should’ve stayed there.

At least in Syria only

Hatay is a good example

Caucasian

Morocco

Yeah

Caucasian includes Aryans, Semitic, And Hamitic idk what are u on.

To me it’s better then some colonial terms like Black, white, and brown.

@Deleted User that’s quite random, but you know. I prefer EQ over IQ, the IQ system is flawed. Both are good neither is better then the other since they are two different things. I simply believe EQ is more when it comes to social status. A person IQ holds almost no meaning to me. Especially if they lack in simple problem solving and communication skills. I’m not saying you don’t need IQ. All I’m saying is EQ > IQ. EQ. Is more important when it comes actually living. It’s very important to understand ones and others emotions when communicating and making decisions. People with high EQ are usually successful and know to be great bosses/managers. But if we would go to actually racial supremacy and bs, your people havent made shit and were just simple cavemen Anglo dude until they started their colonialism. You just link yourself to a greater entity like white to feel better about urself how sad.

If we go to history u would know what I mean

While we had Carthage and the Moors, you were just cavemen ^^

@IliasSpook let’s keep this 1 to 1, Ik this server is full of white supremcists I’ll just have a debate and leave this shithole. But let me talk about your Carthage vs Roman thing, the first war we got betrayed by one of our nobles that sided with you. If that haven’t had happened you wouldn’t dream of winning It. The second war, you initially got cucked by Hannibal but come on he marched all the way North Africa all the way to Alps that’s a challenge it self and your historians praise him for that it’s shocking that he didn’t perish in the first place but he still took victories and returned because he had lost a lot of soldiers on the way. Unfortunately the rest were losses all thx to mercenaries abandoning Carthage and some traitors. But either way you guys got influenced a lot by Carthage, bad leadership after Hannibal, and lots of traitors caused the fall of Carthage not ur mighty Rome.

@Deleted User pffftt the Vikings sold u to the moors

Including the Slavs as well

Yeah sure, I wouldn't deny the Romans were great adapters. but majority of the reasons why carthage lost was traitors abandoning it and bad leadership.

Yeah, tho Carthaginian society wasn't as militarized as Rome is

It didnt have to anymore.

It was simple, their empire was more trade focused rather then.... you know. that's why they focused more on navy rather then land military.

the Parthians were sort of more nomadic, i doubt they needed an efficient navy.

weren't they the first to mass use Horse archer cavalry

I heard they had some sort of regiment of turkic captured troops that converted to Orthdox and became their own thing.

They were also used by the crusader states as well.

To counter the light Muslim cavalry, both sides adapted to the other side army, the muzzies army started getting heavier. And the crusaders also started having much lighter troops since you can’t run in a desert with full plate armour for long....

@IliasSpook tbh they could’ve lasted much more if Guy of lusignan wasn’t that retarded to March out of Jerusalem to fall for Salahdin trap.

@Deleted User u still here?

@Deleted User EQ is relatively a new thing and is being brought up and becoming more famous slowly.

I encourage you to do more research about it

and about the history, the vikings used to sell Anglos and other eastern europeans they captured to the moors. its funny how Europeans make fun of West africans selling their fellow africans while it had also happened between the europeans but ofc u should hide the history.

For sure

Imagine thinking Vikings are cool

Oh and also

I have this thing

According to some accounts, in the beginning of the 13th century King John of England (1167–1216) sent an embassy to the Almohad Sultan Muhammad al-Nasir (1199–1213), requesting military support and an alliance against France.[1] At home, King John was faced with a dire situation, in which his Barons revolted against him, he had been excommunicated by the Pope, and France was threatening to invade. The embassy of three was led by Bishop Roger, and King John supposedly offered to convert to Islam and pay a tribute to al-Nasir in exchange for his help. Al-Nasir apparently dismissed the proposal.[2]

@Deleted User LMFAO, England superior civilisation my arse.

Just wait

It still doesn’t change the fact that ur king was so desperate to ask for Moroccan help

@Punished Juan you think england was better then the moors or the eastern Romans?

Not the Vikings smh

@Deleted User Yeah, know your place guess your aryan supremacy didn’t help for 15 centuries.

Moors were the most civilised in all of Western europa

No doubt

@IliasSpook nah, not even close. Córdoba used to house 500K people at its peak only behind Constantinople and Baghdad.

@Deleted User You were still behind for most of the ancient, Medieval, and the beginning of early modern. What was the pop of London at the peak of Córdoba? A few ten thousand. Alhambra is the most visited monument in Spain for a reason, compare that art and glory to some of your medieval buildings smh.

Oh and also, you guys have to thank us for basically preserving all the ancient Roman books and culture in places like Sicily and Iberia for you to get out of the dark ages ;)).

The first attempt to fly was done by moors flying for 10 minutes and also the first university in the world.

@Deleted User u were behind in the whole medieval period, not sure about Early modern but maybe reached us finally.

Lmfao

What else could i say?

you talk about IQ like an intellectual person, but at the same time u think a book is useless in face of a gun.

Man, im done Lmaoooo

having a gun for a short time in face of a country full of books would initially have you win yeah, but if these books are everywhere and accessible your gun could become outdated and the people with the book would figure out a creative way of countering your gun. Britain was behind Morocco in medicine, Astronomy, Math, Food and Agriculture techniques, and art,

what?

Morocco had a large empire as well at that time

we were basically bordering france

Fuck it’s more then 2K letters

I’ll cut it wait a bit

Alright, in Astronomy: there were many scientists in the field of astronomy such as Averroes, ibn tufail, Nur ad-Din al-Bitruji, and Ibn al-Banna' al-Marrakushi All lived around the same time and focused their astronomical works on critiquing and revising Ptolemaic astronomy and the problem of the equant in his astronomical model Instead, they accepted Aristotle’s model and promoted the theory of homocentric spheres. Abu Ishaq Ibrahim al-Zarqali (d. 1087) had many influential astronomical successes, as shown by Copernicus's recognition of him in his On The Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres five centuries later. Along with other astronomers, he undertook extensive work to edit the Toledan Zij astronomical tables. He also accurately calculated the motion of the solar apogee to be 12.04 seconds per year, which is relatively close to today's calculation of 11.8 seconds per year.

in Agronomy: These advances were in part facilitated by technological innovations in irrigation systems. State organized, large-scale irrigation projects provided water to city baths, mosques, gardens, residential homes, and governing palaces, such as the al-Hambra and its gardens in Granada. One notable agriculturalist was Ibn al-'Awwam, who wrote the Book of Agriculture. This book contains 34 chapters about various aspects of agriculture and animal husbandry, including discussions of over 580 different types of plants and how to treat plant diseases.

In Medicine:Of particular note is al-Zahrawi, who is considered by many to be “probably the greatest physician in the entire history of Western Islam. Around the year 1000 he wrote a book with a comprehensive medical encyclopedia with the goal of summarizing all existing medical knowledge and eliminating the need for students and practitioners to rely on multiple medical texts.[67] The book is renowned for its chapter on surgery which included important illustrations of surgical instruments, as well as sections “on cauterization, on incisions, venesection and wounds, and on bone-setting."[68] For hundreds of years after its publication it was one of the most widely-used medical texts for students and medical practitioners and was translated into Hebrew, Latin, and Castilian Other important medical texts include al-Baytar’s Comprehensive Book on Simple Drugs and Foodstuffs—an encyclopedia with descriptions of the medical uses of over 1400 plants and other types of medicine—and ibn Habib’s Book of the Me The ibn Zuhr family played a very important role in the production of Andalusian medical knowledge, as they produced five generations of medical experts, particularly in the fields of dietary sciences and medicaments.[72] Abu Marwan ibn Zuhr (d. 1162) is particularly notable, as he wrote the Book of Moderation (Kitab al-Iqtisad)—a treatise on general therapy; the Book of Foods (Kitab al-Aghdhiya)—a manual on foods and regimen which contains guidelines for a healthy life; and the Kitab al-Taysir—a book written to act as a compendium to Ibn Rushd's Colliget. In Kitab al-Taysir he provides some of the earliest recorded evidence of the Scabies mite, which contributed to the scientific advancement of microbiology.

Food and Agriculture: A variety of foodstuffs, spices and crops were introduced to Spain and Sicily during Arab rule, via the commercial networks of the Islamic world. These include sugarcane,[89] rice,[90] cotton, alfalfa, oranges,[91] lemons,[92] apricots,[93] spinach,[94] eggplants,[95] carrots[96] and saffron.[97] The Arabs also continued extensive cultivation and production of olive oil (the Spanish words for 'oil' and 'olive' -- aceite and aceituna, respectively—are derived from the Arabic al-zait, meaning 'olive juice'),[98] and pomegranates (the heraldic symbol of Granada) from classical Greco-Roman times.

Arabic influence still lingers on in Spanish cuisine through these fruits, vegetables, spices and cooking and agricultural techniques.

us, it also had an important literary activity; one specialist of Al-Andalus' intellectual history, Maria Luisa Avila, says that "biographical dictionaries have recorded information about thousands of distinguished people in every period from al-Andalus, who were cultivators of knowledge, particularly in the legal-religious sciences as well as authors", and that "the exact number of scholars which appears in the biographical sources has not been established yet, but it surely exceeds six thousand." [84] It has been estimated that in the 10th century between 70,000 and 80,000 manuscripts were copied on a yearly basis in Cordoba alone