*coder

Oh

Now I see, the janitor thing

only reason i was going to school was to buy me time so i can train

Do not be a janitor though. Society is so judgemental it's insane..

i could just train myself, assuming i have steady income

So?

If I were to buy that Tesla I testdrove today, I would suddenly be highly valuable and attractive to people. That just shows how fickle it all is

What does society's approval get you?

i can rent out for a year + and not need to work

A women? Pfft

but roko, if i live in my room all day and dont leave, idc about anyone else's opinion

@shadowlessnexus That's the thing. We cannot easily turn this internal validation drive off. It physically hurts us because in past times we would DIE when society has a negative opinion of us. Our society is outgrowing our bodies. Adapting is hard, but not impossible

i have it off

shadow too

idk why it's hard for you

@JDB I know you can do it, but you will limit your development that way. You'd be a shell of what you could be, but a succesful one. You will wake up one day regretting not having more fun while you were young

u have so much cash, that u can legit just do whatever u want for 5+ years

@shadowlessnexus I think you have to be professional and dressing well/being in good shape and other silly things DOES signal a higher value. Now, it doesn't have to be sexual. There is nothing wrong working a job as you train yourself in another career.

tbh - i just want to work a 3-4 day week as anything, so i can spend most of my time learning

@JDB I am there with you. I am treating this job (software engineer making 75k) as means to more. I spend 4 hours in the morning before work to study/learn, then work 8-10 hours, workout 1 hour and chill the rest of the night. On weekends, I just hang with friends or learn. I think you do need to prioritize social though. It's so easy to be a hermit and start getting depressed if you're not careful.

<@549393998788296736> Yeah, I love playing with the Halo effect. It's so funny seeing it all play out 100% according to your expectations. That's why I'm so bitter about women and relationships

I honestly don't give a damn about my value. I'd rather have low social value and stay under the radar. You can only keep it so low as you raise it, but I don't care what society thinks about me.

I know my true value and it's a shame that I can't hide it from the world at my will.

@MufflePuff I want high value for raises/bonuses/work but care less otherwise.

Ahh, well.... I don't want a job.

@secrite wot time do u wake up?

Makes sense for that though.

@JDB 0500-600

how do u have 4 hours to study

when do u get into work

@MufflePuff I don't care that you don't care, but your body cares. You have two different brains. Your system 1 (reptile brain) cares deeply about others' opinion. Your system 2 really doesn't care because it's logical. System 1 is a million times faster though and can override system 2 in a moment of weakness

roko why do i find it so easy to not care then?

Yes. Meditation helps. That's why HHH also advocates it. I should do so too more often

my resting state, with no effort, idc

Ehhhhh... I disagree @Roko. What are the long-term effects of my reptile brain not getting this validation?

@JDB That's the whole reason I talk to you so much. You can override system 1. You're special in a way and I want to learn that trait.

@MufflePuff You will feel like shit and you won't know why. It's physical pain coming from inside.

I guess....

maybe mufflepuff is like me too

@Roko I know this will sound really dumb but I've been doing a 'passive meditation' by leaving my phone turned off in my work drawer. I embrace the slow moments of life without any distraction. I sit down to my computer to work. Otherwise, I am mentally freed up.