Message from @Dinosorcerer
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Fuck what neocons and the media think
Yeah, exactly
if you are unable to recognize your own bias and use it to shut down others, you are a cuckhead
They start wars a lot of times because of the defense lobby. No joke it's a very big business
i mean
If we didnt go to war after 9/11 GW would have been the worst liked president ever
My parents used to wprk for Allison engines. It's a big deal
I was in the military, it's real
same fam
We should've gone after Saudi Arabia. Osama was an asshole, but he wasn't behind 9/11
Wait who is shutting anyone down?
im saying in general
They did stuff for the civ market, but c-130 engine orders was that company's bread and butter
we are all good here
I dont know, I think either way Osama had to go down
wish we treated Saddam like Osama
Well, definitely Osama
So are you saying we should've taken out Saddam earlier?
Im saying we never should have installed him in power
that one is mostly our fault
You just can't win
this is true
thats why I want trumps travel ban, and extend it to most of these shit holes
I think we should reinstate the Immigration Act of 1790
Saddam came to power during the pan-Arab movement, so that wasn't just the US per se. Are you talking about the arms sales during the Iran-Iraq war?
Probably
I mean we've had the most opportunities to step in and curb his power and we instead sold him more weapons
I agree we shouldn't have done that. At the end of the day I think Saddam was just kind of your basic bitch strongman. I don't think he had an ideological beef with the US like Osama did.
thats true
he used us as a scapegoat though
Yeah, the cold war realpolitik came back to bite us in the butt in a lot of situations (esp. with the Taliban)
Nobody else was capable or wanted to step up to the plate against the USSR, though
true
USSR is to blame for a lot of the initial causes
Yeah, cold war we did what we had to do, but then the neolibs became the new communists, so to speak
We didn't have to fight a million and half proxy wars. We just had to follow what Eisenhower did
^
Eisenhower was a great president
But Eisenhower helped get us into Vietnam
Right war, wrong reasons