Message from @Grumplebee
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Are people still going nuts?
What's the white pill channel for?
It's for any good stories
At this point there I don't see a reason for the white pill channel
Don't worry, there will be
The Count Dankula case is one of many, tyranny hasn't died it is just staggered .
Oh yeah, that fee is calculated. If he was jailed there would be protests. Very wise of the UK legal sytem. This will allow them to perpetuate their power.
This will get people to claim victory over crumbs
Right, even though it stupidly bad.
The bar is now set. This is what will get you find. Lgeal implications is there is something that will get you prision. and that is terrible.
I'm too drunk for this shit right now.
You can tell I'm drunk because I am swearing a lot more than usual. Going to general.
I really like what Que said: there are people who get famous being who they are, people who get famous because something happened to them, and people who become famous because of what they say. Dankula is the middle one.
He is pretty funny. Funnier than me anyway. I'm pretty jelly in a way. This got so many senpai's to notice him.
Yeah and in a few months I want to see how it goes for him, will he be able to entertain his audience, will he become a shill (like Candid) or will he fade into obscurity?
He should double down.
Train a bigger dog to do a worse thing.
Like growl when someone says "gypsy"
If I am actually racist again't anyone, it's them
They used to do "weddings" at the hotel I worked at
Where they used stolen credit cards, "married" 14 year olds, and we got cussed out by drunken seven year olds.
It's a destructive and toxic culture.
They also would try to steal anything that wasn't nailed down. That isn't an exaggeration. They tried to steal a matress once.
You are not following, what I am saying is that this is not a victory, this dumbass who likes to parrot socdem talking points, who decided to poorly frame his defense as "just a joke" and give the law legitimacy (by tacitly agreeing that since it is a joke, they just need to concentrate on the real Nazis), and on top of it all he is a fucking youtuber he will in a few months shilling for something.
You may be right, but as I said. I am drunk.
I will be ranting in general.
Well the man needed to cater his defense to the environment he was defending himself in. He can't just get rid of an established law in one court case. Especially not one that the establishment wants so badly.
It would be impossible for him to stand on the principle of freedom of speech because such a concept does not exist as a legal reality in Britain.
Also the "it was a joke" defense was an accurate one. He was making a joke. Would you rather him have come out as a devotee of Hitler in the courtroom? Oh yes, I'm sure that would have flown over very well.
You're disregarding the fact that if he won with the "joke" defense, he would have taken power away from that law. That comedians everywhere (in Britain, at least) would then be able to use that case as legal precedent.
If the man has any sense, he's going to appeal this case until he gets to a court with a damn jury in it.
Lol no the hate speech law was for real nazis, defending it as a joke that was stripped out of context was the best answer for him BC basically he didn't broke the law. And now all he has to do is pay a fine.
If anything my criticism is that this is a two step forward a step backwards victory
We haven't really achieved much
Yes, but now he'll have it on his record. I'd appeal it if I were him.
"The hate speech law was for real nazis" really swallowing the same old government PR hook line and sinker, aren't you? These laws NEVER stay within the bounds initially promised. How the hell do you think we came here in the first place?
How else would you have had Dank defend himself out of curiosity?
That's the whole thing he is not fighting the law or it's legitimacy, he is fighting so that him and other centrists won't be harmed.
And I want him to defend himself that this is a joke and that there is no hate speech.
But that is too much for this guy
He can't fight the law or its legitimacy because there is no guarantee of free speech in British law. The closest they have is something from the EU that makes provisions for anti hate speech law. You do realize that a lawyer has to work with the laws that a society has. Sure, Dank could have done what you said and absolutely guaranteed a guilty verdict and possibly be held in contempt of court as well.
To fight the law, he needs legal grounding. Especially against an activist judge like the one he got. The most he could do in this instance is fight it on the grounds that the law did not apply to his specific case.