it looks like a scratching post to sharpen your perception on the obvious flaws and red flags

isnt available for my country
feminism free land xD

@Knight of Sunlight

http://thebeehive.bumble.com/bumbleblog/moon-signs

that says about everything you need to know about this company

Question: Is MGTOW total isolation from women where a man doesn't date or marry anymore? I thought it was just about men putting themselves and their own personal purpose first...

@ValleyAnt MGTOW is about self actualization, since self actualization is different for everyone, not a lot of content can be produced on the matter. Going monk mode is up to yourself, not a requirement nor is it what MGTOW is about. Some chose that path while others decide to continue dating.

@ValleyAnt It's about understanding female nature and the roles culture and society put man play even at the cost or detriment of that man.

Then deciding your on path from there. That's the short of it in my own words.

@Oniichan Of The West thanks. Im glad thats it cuz if it was about monkistry and isolation from women as mandatory, that would be a real weakness in the movement and also a great opportunity for people to attack it. As it stands now, I see nothing that anyone can attack in the MGTOW movement. Everything makes sense

@ValleyAnt Isolation is at times used as a tool to discover one's purpose in life, which is why some decide to do it. If you can find your purpose without the need of isolation then isolation is not needed.

@Knight of Sunlight thanks too. Thats a good summary. I began to become MGTOW in 1998; my dad was very abusive and beat the masculinity out of me... I had an experience in March 1998 that changed me and I began to rediscover my masculinity-- true masculinity that doesnt put women first but puts the man and his own purpose in life first. Real women will follow that cuz real women dont want to control men. At this point Im at the place where I could shuttle all women to the moon and leave them there with enough food to last three years and without a vehicle to leave the rock. I still love women, but there's no 'put up' in me for their bullshit. I would much rather be single my entire life than deal with a living, breathing, TALKING cancer

@Oniichan Of The West I've learned a lot thru isolation. It hasnt been fun but its been a whole lot... In fact I keep saying "I dont need to learn anymore; Im tired of learning"... a lot of that learning is about human nature overall... since 1998 I began to have a very good grasp on how people think and feel about things... women could SENSE this on me and most of them gave me a wide berth when they realized I wasnt flaky or just wanting to get in their pants. They want weak men because for them its about control and at the root of that is their idol-- their worshipful master-- which is their need to feel safe (i.e. security)

@ValleyAnt I would recommend showing them what they would expect in a man, without going through with it all the way, just enough for them to ignore your presence. I find it the easiest way to ghost.

@Oniichan Of The West what do you mean by showing them...

@ValleyAnt Act like a typical blue pilled cuck.

Oh I couldnt even pretend

I just became authentic suddenly

I still had my weaknesses to work out, but my mind went from mush to steel

even when I was friendly with women, they were intimidated by me

and even when I wanted to have sex with some, they wouldn't do it

an ex-gf of mine finally explained to me and said that women were afraid to approach me... Still working on the weakness aspect of me (my heart so to speak) I asked her why they would be intimidated by me... She said that the way I walked and carried myself made me look important and dignified and that esp. the way I walked made it seem like I was saying to women, "I wish you would try and come and talk to me." So she basically said I was giving off a heavy vibe-- like an important man, some kingly or at least princely shit... That was in 2000. MGTOW (not yet known by name) for me began two years before in 1998

A blessing in one hand and a curse in another. It seems you attract a lot of attention. It the lovely era of #metoo that could be a problem down the line.

well I dont know

since 1998 I began to have an actual sense of purpose

that immediately made women go from #2 (they were never #1 for me) to somewhere around #5-- and that's WIFE, not THOTS. The THOTS, I no longer had the ability to care about them. Still was attracted to them; but the desire for sex wasn't as strong BECAUSE of the emotional connection that happens during sex. I did not emotionally love girls anymore, so sex would have to be something that 'just happened'-- like if we were hanging out or found ourselves alone somewhere. Starting in 1998, sex was never something I chased. My sense of purpose immediately canceled it out, and it will do that for EVERY man who somehow discovers not only that women are basically trash (most of them) BUT that he has a higher purpose than women, wife, family

my sudden ability to sense HOW females think (not saying I could sense WHAT they thought but HOW) really put a tie on my sexual appetite for them... their attitude was always ruining it for me unless, like I said, it 'just happened'

A man with a purpose is an extremely rare sight, no wonder they found you intimidating😄 . You can't be controlled like the rest of society. Ghosting in your area seems to be out of the question, so honestly just continue to live and strive for your purpose👍 . When you run low, pick up other hobbies, and remain alert for the dangers women and the laws can be since new laws to screw men over continue to get passed.

@Oniichan Of The West yeah 'ghosting and games' are gone for me. I can only be who I am, and women are scared to death of that. I used to chat with my guy friends in college and if they had a girl standing near them-- usually a gf or just some THOT or something-- the girl, when she saw me talking to them, would become scared and uncomfortable and would move close to the guy and cling to his arm or some other body part. This happened so often that though I knew the girls were afraid of the masculinity they could see in me (and believe me, I wasn't beaming it on the outside; but it was on the inside and women are more perceptive than men in that department), I wondered, "Do these girls think I'm gay and that I'm going to steal their boyfriends/male friends from them?" Well, the first part wasn't it (they didn't think I was gay); but the second part was: they were afraid that I would steal their male friends... But steal how? Why would I steal them since I wasn't gay? And did they not trust their male friends enough to remain straight and not 'go gay'?

@Oniichan Of The West Well, the dynamic I was witnessing-- and I knew it instinctively and by intuition whenever I saw it (it confused me only because I didn't think I was different from most other guys)-- doesn't have a name that I know of (psychology should have a name for it cuz its very real). A man who has PURPOSE approaches a man who has no purpose; the woman hanging on the other man's arm recognizes that this other man has this purpose that makes him blind to women-- makes him not need women. She INTUITIVELY KNOWS that men are supposed to put purpose before pussy... and she also knows that if her man or male friend were to 'hang with me' long enough, 'my purpose-fulness' has a good chance of rubbing off on him... therefore making him no longer NEED her. Women can tell when a man isnt needy or 'beggy' (i.e. horny, slobbering, chasing them); they cant control such a man and so they do all they can to keep their men from becoming like that. Sorry for the long explanation; Im tired and on the way to bed so cant think very well. Oh btw I saw this same 'woman moves in and clings to man's arm as she fearfully looks at me' with a pastor's wife. She wore the pants and when I talked to her husband she looked like a piece of wood on the tracks when a train rumbles by-- shaking with fear that her husband might 'contract' purpose by talking to me (she knows he'd leave her sorry ass IMMEDIATELY)

ok going to bed now... good to find this site-- gonna bookmark

Good night then @ValleyAnt

have a good night everyone... #PrioritizeOrDie

Night fam

Adieu

À demain

So when do the streams usually start? I wanna be sure I can make it @Happy Humble Hermit

@nate112332 there is typically an announcement in the proper channel

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@ValleyAnt Its about what you want to become and do, without letting anyone but the harsh reality interfere with your WEY trough life. You can do women and they can do you but that usually comes with emotional issues and manipulation which make you stray. Some tough men decide to keep enjoying women every now and then (with all dangers included), other tough men leave the entire thing because it distracts them way too much and they cant get rid of it (no danger included).