Yes, but illegal marriage. Pro or anti-marriage, it still is a major problem that underage kids are being confined to an adult marriage, something that should be illegalized to begin with.

Hell, the child marriages happening here was a new thing I actually did overlook. I am surprised it is still legal in some US states. I thought this was outlawed decades ago.

This shit happens in my native Nigeria and Africa.

Frankly , i don't give a fuck, Thats how Mgtow i am

Well you should. That's our boys they're fucking with. OUR youth being destroyed by marriage against their consent and will. Unlike adult men, those boys don't have much choice (if any at all).

Not giving a fuck about this is not MGTOW, it's neutral nihilism.

More so defeatism.

And I've been there before.

Listen, it Doesn't Benefit me To Stop either one of Those couples of Getting Married, there are better ways to spread your mgtow idealism than those type of social experiments, the old man marrying a 12 year old, just makes men look bad.

LOL WAIT YOU MEAN THE LITTLE GIRL MARRYING THE OLD MAN IN PUBLIC?

The old man was gonna get dropped

Same for the woman. It is disgusting to see any of that. I don't expect MGTOW to fight and resolve men's issues, that is always the job for the Men's Rights Movement, but you guys would usually call out this stuff for what it is and make light to it. A signal that even the MRM could use as a base to resolve the issues on the forefront. To be honest, it would actually benefit both genders to ensure this is federally illegalized.

To discover someone who is supposedly a MGTOW not even care about this issue is just... Fucking wow... Can make one question if MGTOW is truly a path to men's freedom. It's honestly demoralizing.

Anytime man, Iv'e Got plenty of input for everyone, if they need it.

I am 35% Alpha, 35% Beta, 28% omega, 2% black pill

All around baby

this alpha beta shit is dogshit

just labels used to make men anxious

Thing is I am very black pill myself. I an not even MGTOW either, I am a progressive nihilist - unlike the neutrals, I'm not lazy and defeatist. Even if I wanted to, I can't even afford to be. My goals strongly advice against it.
I've been supporting you guys for a few years now, I don't want to end up losing hope in MGTOW like I did with egalitarianism.

whatever

the black pill is shit now

someone doesn't need to be labeled only as beta. Can it depend on situations

losing hope in mgtow ?? what does that even mean??

lol

The MGTOW philosophy.

@Seven Of Swords , what was black pill? and what is it today?

i mean just succumbing to being labeled as alpha or beta at all is bullshit

black pill is harsher than red pill

The black pill is an element of nihilism. It's a state for those entering nihilism, especially for the first time. It reveals a much more darker reality of truth than MGTOW does.

@ZODD The black pill was supposed to be a sort of hyper-aware nihilist take on things once you find out that the red pill just gets darker. You realize that the whole reproductive game is a sham and that the epistemic and psychological pitfalls cannot solve all of our human problems.

Or, WGTOW XD

A dark truth about human nature and life value.

Now its coopted by incels as just a realization that women will never want them and that all else is cope.

complete dogshit now.

Right, What should it be then instead?

WGTOW - WIGtow? Hair in head, plastic? Fake? And may- ok screw this IT HAS WOMEN IN THE TITLE

That's a load of bull. incels did not co-opt the red pill. Some of them did try though, but that does not mean it is useless.

is there a definitive encyclopedia

And its also been coopted by fascists and Nick Land types as a way to purge the earth of inferior races so that the strong will succeed.

They have been doing so with the red pill as well. Not to mention the PUAs are doing so.

pick up artists? LMSANDFACE made videos of them failing to pick up women LMAO

That's why all metaphorical pills are dogshit

Yes, The Red Pill subreddit for instance is not even a MGTOW sanctuary, it's mostly PUAs trying to pickup bitches and defile the meaning of red pill.