Is it that they have their shit together, or just put up the illusion that they do?

One has to control all of these trivialities and focused mind.

How does that happen?

Through progression. Bite the bullet and take measures to benefit your own future. Oxygen is too obvious. Don't neglect it if you wish to live. I still want to live as I want to achieve my goals and maintain them.

Collect thoughts, define goals, and pursue them. Everything else shall resolve itself upon that path.

What if you prefer not to live, yet you don't want to die either?

The ol' classic trivial mind fuck.

To me, it sounds like you've been listening to too much Jordan Peterson lmao

I dislike Jordan Peterson.

Then why support is self-help nonsense about attempting to build a foundation for goals based upon nothing?

I am more of a trial-and-error person. self-educate, and improvise.

That approach may seem intuitive, yet is riddled with paradox.

i listened to jordan peterson , but because he is not of my generation, i cannot see what he sees, i love it when he makes people look stupid on youtube tho.

You guys should check out his talk with Philosopher David Benatar.

Benatar is an anti-natalist, and Peterson gets destroyed imo

@Seven Of Swords , your approach may be paradoxical , but your suffering is how you live. you can either improve it, or stick with whatchu got.

Have you heard of Samsara?

@Seven Of Swords Why not build from nothing? If everyone thought the same way, humanity would be extinct.

If I thought the way you did, I probably would have committed suicide a long time ago. That is why nihilism needs to be controlled to avoid drifting apart into the Void.

that could be a spicy meme right there

I'm not convinced that suicide is worth more than living. And on the flip side, I'm not convinced that living is worth more than committing suicide.

If any of you guys in chat rn need to be meme approved let me know

@Iheanacho How the hell can you build from nothing?

make a meme of that

Ditto.

@Seven Of Swords he's stating your nothing, so you can only go up from where you are now.

Y'all need to play some construction games, it really helps influence the nihilism premise. From nothing to something.

@ZODD How does one differentiate between nothing and something?

Fallout Shelter helps too. This War is Mine. Civilizations.

well, they can be the same thing

hmm...

something could be nothing, and nothing is something

Then how is anything else different from me if nothing cannot be distinguished from something?

stop fucking with me LOL

This problem gets brought up in Plato.

I don't think that it gets resolved in his dialogues, so I very much doubt that it will be solved by any of us in this server lmao

i don't know if its a problem but a puzzle of words definitely

Ok... how is a puzzle of words not a problem?

@Iheanacho Will the human species go extinct?

well yeah , its a situation that is unwelcome, a puzzle is more of an equation . but either way, i don't see it as an issue here on this discord.

Hmm.... So a problem is unwelcomed while a puzzle could be welcomed?

i never said the puzzle was welcomed, its just not relative to me