Message from @Seven Of Swords

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2018-09-06 17:54:24 UTC  

"When you see the Buddha on the side of the road, kill him"

2018-09-06 18:55:09 UTC  

Who the hell said that?

2018-09-06 19:36:36 UTC  

Lol

2018-09-06 19:38:28 UTC  

Its just an aphorism lol

2018-09-06 19:41:10 UTC  

Stars in the Milky Way: ~100 Billion

2018-09-06 19:41:39 UTC  

Amount of debt that the US has : 21~23 Trillion Dollars

2018-09-06 19:42:06 UTC  

What the hell is going on here?

2018-09-06 19:42:18 UTC  

Why is the country in more debt than there are stars in the galaxy several times over?

2018-09-06 20:19:21 UTC  

Welfare and bad decisions

2018-09-06 20:34:04 UTC  

Really? You think its all welfare?

2018-09-06 20:34:13 UTC  

And bad decisions?

2018-09-06 20:34:50 UTC  

What if the economic and social system only creates spaces for people to make decisions that cannot solve the problems created by the system in the first place?

2018-09-06 20:35:34 UTC  

No matter how much health care, welfare or however many political policies are instituted by a state?

2018-09-06 21:10:10 UTC  

dude, really? do I have to read that wall of text? I have shit to get done. I'll get back to you... eventually, sometime.

2018-09-06 21:10:21 UTC  

I'm afk for a reason

2018-09-06 21:10:52 UTC  

Y'all posting essays xD

2018-09-06 21:12:20 UTC  

@igorbloodscene Noted. Which is why a discussion in voice chat would be better.

2018-09-06 21:12:52 UTC  

But if not, then I understand.

2018-09-06 21:13:20 UTC  

btw if you say communism and marxism isn't bad, prove me with one working example of a communist country in economical terms

(hint: venezuela is a fine proof of why communism doesn't work, if you need an example from the present)

2018-09-06 21:14:21 UTC  

What do you mean by "working" and what exactly is the standard for what economic terms legitimize which countries are or are not "working"?

2018-09-06 21:14:52 UTC  

Because in my opinion, no country or economy ever works because they are all littered with problems.

2018-09-06 21:15:06 UTC  

if you don't know what working means, look it up in a thesaurus/dictionary

2018-09-06 21:15:20 UTC  

What happens when I question the dictionary?

2018-09-06 21:15:27 UTC  

but 'working' means that you have economic mobility

2018-09-06 21:15:45 UTC  

Or perhaps a communist society could actually meet the definition of working under the dictionary?

2018-09-06 21:15:57 UTC  

that's something you don't have in a communist economy. that, you have in your country of origin, if it's not communist.

2018-09-06 21:16:19 UTC  

Care to explain deeper?

2018-09-06 21:16:34 UTC  

I'm not sure that I sufficiently understand your point...

2018-09-06 21:17:43 UTC  

Google definition of working: functioning or able to function.

2018-09-06 21:17:56 UTC  

Many communists would argue that communism can meet the definition.

2018-09-06 21:18:04 UTC  

okay, then your next job is to google 'economic mobility'

2018-09-06 21:18:44 UTC  

@Andrew The Meme King Memes are garbage tbh

2018-09-06 21:18:52 UTC  

Overplayed and trite.

2018-09-06 21:18:59 UTC  

@Seven Of Swords that hurts man

2018-09-06 21:20:04 UTC  

@igorbloodscene Under what system gets to determine or value if "economic mobility" is a factor of economic success if perhaps we could have other ways to structure society that may not value that specific aspect?

2018-09-06 21:21:21 UTC  

wot? economy as a definition, is not a result of capitalism. the market, and that people want to trade things, is a part of the human nature. I have knives, you have tables. you need knives, I need tables, we trade.

2018-09-06 21:21:37 UTC  

@igorbloodscene If you tell me to just use Google, I'm going to just use the communist arguments against what you vaule as counter examples against what you want me to look up in the first place lmao. Perhaps you need to put in more work than simply asking people to Google things... Not a very fruitful discussion.

2018-09-06 21:22:11 UTC  

you would want the government to regulate that? that is what communism does.

2018-09-06 21:22:32 UTC  

But under a market of exchanges, people do not barter. In your example, that is barter, not a market.

2018-09-06 21:22:57 UTC  

I tell you to google things because you want to define things. I'm not here to define things, there are commonly accepted ways to do that, one of which is 'google that shit'

2018-09-06 21:23:17 UTC  

Did you read my response? I'm not in favor of any government doing anything lol