Message from @Leather Collector
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@Leather Collector I am Jack's smirking revenge.
I am Jack's inflamed sense of rejection
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
@Seven Of Swords i don't know man, having a Dick is Wayy better than having a vagina , at least you still got that
Imagine being born with neither or both...
Both would be a mind fuck, Neither would be more asexual
Which is worse?
both
Interesting. How so?
isn't it obvious?? your only suppose to have like one sex organ
Well if you didn't have either, would that also mean that your body is void of any testosterone ane estrogen?
*and
What says that you are only supposed to only have one sex organ?
@Leather Collector Maybe? Unless you get injections lol
LOL, im not gonna go into detail of common sense biology
As far as I'm concerned, none of biology is "common sense". The more I look into biology, the more qustions appear.
Yeah but would you even need either? If you have no reproductive value then there would probably be no point in having either one. Unless of course they serve other purposes aside from sexual reproduction; which they probably do, but I wouldn't know
Look into evolutionary structures as being spandrels.
Very interesting research.
It could be the case that many structures of our secondary sex characteristics may have been not necessarily made for reproductive fitness, but instead could be spandrel like additions that may have been selected for without necessarily being reproductively advantageous.
Yeah that makes sense. Kinda like how our cells unintentionally began using mitochondria as a means for energy production
Yet, just because cells use a mitochondria, it is not necessarily the case that perhaps some other structure could have been selected for that could fulfill the same function, yet be structurally different than a mitochondria itself.
We can call this structure "^"
"^" can be a variable for any sort of structure that could have very easily been selected for either because it was reproductively advantageous or via spandrel.
So if that could have been the case then testosterone could very well be in the same boat. Okay, now I get what you're saying
So, it begs the question of if the very structures of our bodies are necessary, if we could have had other structures be selected for all the while the structures being totally different.
Precisely.
We can implement this into a study or consideration of xenomorphology or even "alternative humans"
This just opened up a door inside my mind. I suppose this is where biological engineering comes into play. We could begin to redesign the human structure as we know it. We could abandon any weaknesses we have as a species and evolve by artificial means
I suppose the only thing keeping us from doing so would be ethics
That's post-human thinking.
Have you seen Evangelion?
No but I've been told by my friend on multiple occasions to watch it
Its really long and not even I have been able to watch all of it, but it deals with this sort of issue.
It's definitely an interesting idea to ponder
If we were able to "transcend" our human limitations for the sake of being something else entirely, (angels from Evangelion, the Reapers from Mass Effect, the Flood from Halo, The Borg from Star Trek, Aliens from Alien, etc.) at what cost is it?
Cost of Aesthetics?
Our own identities?
Our own ideas of right and wrong?
Or perhaps even the ability to distinguish between "Self" and "Other" or to even draw distinctions between objects with boundaries?
This is all reminding me of one of the endings of Bloodborne. In this particular ending, you become a Great One. At that point, you've pretty much abandoned your humanity. You're an omnipotent being who's free to grow and expand, so why would you care about humanity.? The same thing happens in Ghost in the Shell. Major feels trapped, free only to grow and expand within the confinement of her artificial body. So I suppose it all depends on how much potential you want to fulfill