Message from @Denno

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2018-10-04 11:06:26 UTC  

Yes Jack

2018-10-04 11:06:42 UTC  
2018-10-04 11:06:49 UTC  

Other than that, it is dependent on the case in my opinion. I have a roomate and i love being with him. Im not gay but i never get tired of doing things with him, hes like a brother to me

2018-10-04 11:07:06 UTC  

Lol that lesbian statistic seems very possible

2018-10-04 11:07:23 UTC  

Hmmmm

2018-10-04 11:07:43 UTC  

I personally think so but it does depend on how you define going your own way

2018-10-04 11:07:48 UTC  

and how you are quantifying it

2018-10-04 11:08:22 UTC  

I mean gay couples are still subject to the same kinds of laws as hereosexual couples in some states

2018-10-04 11:08:33 UTC  

so the same gynocentric laws do apply

2018-10-04 11:08:57 UTC  

If a man signs a form saying he is the submissive one, he can gain those said resources in divorce court

2018-10-04 11:09:21 UTC  

On the other hand, they are not cohabitating with women. So they are somewhat denying women of resources

2018-10-04 11:09:37 UTC  

I think it depends on their motive

2018-10-04 11:09:47 UTC  

If its out of codependence then no

2018-10-04 11:10:12 UTC  

If its a personal choice where they define that as MGTOW. Then it is an act of MGTOW to them

2018-10-04 11:11:27 UTC  

not personally

2018-10-04 11:11:32 UTC  

I see it as a shaming tactic

2018-10-04 11:12:57 UTC  

Women by default will shame men because they cannot see outside the self

2018-10-04 11:13:07 UTC  

Sounds like a typical American definition... It's mgtow if you want it to be... Regardless of your actions?

2018-10-04 11:13:08 UTC  

They need the co-dependence. It's manufactured power

2018-10-04 11:13:29 UTC  

As for gay cohabitation, it is an alternative. Same could be said for trans too

2018-10-04 11:15:04 UTC  

But it also depends on legal definitions

2018-10-04 11:15:17 UTC  

Meh

2018-10-04 11:15:29 UTC  

@Artemis There is yet no definition of MGTOW as it is a loose Movement. The problem with cohabitation only comes to play if you find yourself restricted in fulfilling your needs within your living space. E.g. women decorating the shit out of your apartment. There is margin between these things. Roommates with shared living spaces for example.

2018-10-04 11:15:38 UTC  

Same as social norms in particular contexts

2018-10-04 11:16:41 UTC  

But MGTOW overall is going your own way

2018-10-04 11:17:18 UTC  

in the practical sense, its up to the individual to realise that

2018-10-04 11:17:50 UTC  

Stoicism and stoic principles and the way of the warrior do have some core tenets of mgtow

2018-10-04 11:18:16 UTC  

Well her guilt is also societal guilt too

2018-10-04 11:18:36 UTC  

I don't see women as separate from the collective identity

2018-10-04 11:18:57 UTC  

but the programming is designed to create guilt

2018-10-04 11:19:21 UTC  

a way to measure it would be based off the objectives

2018-10-04 11:19:31 UTC  

law - politics - culture - norms

2018-10-04 11:22:01 UTC  

yes

2018-10-04 11:22:06 UTC  

monk mode I'd say yes

2018-10-04 11:22:18 UTC  

same as purple pill ghosting

2018-10-04 11:22:31 UTC  

But if you are actually completely open and honest to the woman, why shouldn't it work? @Mysteriedingens

2018-10-04 11:22:40 UTC  

@Denno are you a woman?

2018-10-04 11:22:51 UTC  

im trans

2018-10-04 11:23:22 UTC  

Male to female?

2018-10-04 11:23:28 UTC  

yes

2018-10-04 11:23:48 UTC  

@Artemis I dont say that cohabitation with women doesn't work if you keep your boundaries. I just assume it would not be an option for longterm (as relationships in general). Enjoy being with her as long as she is nice, after that throw her out and look the fuck out for keeping your ressources.