Hm. And unnecessary

After reading your people's points, I still don't see a reason not to embrace it

Yes

Lol.

Yea. Why is mgtow necessary when it goes against many men's natural urges?

Yea I agree lol. Next step is a sex doll

Doesnt make sense if you want to be mgtow

And therefore and also in general, why be mgtow in the first place

What if you are gay? How does the mgtow "movement" view that? Do you think cohabitation would then be possible?

Yea and it seems senseless!

yes?

You don't have an opinion on that or don't want to share it?

B

Bidol

What's Bidol?

In my opinion this Alpha beta thing is heavily debunked. There are a lot of niches in which you can be best in. I noticed, when i started bouldering, it had its niche bitches, kickboxing has its niche bitches, i play piano, some Vs are drooling upon hearing a few tones. Build up your niche, dont try to be a mr right for everything. And this not only applys to women.

I'm asking this since y'all seem to be saying that women are the problem in this whole partnership thing and so on so according to that, gays should work, no?

Taking myself as an example - i display different levels of confidence upon doing different activities dependent on my surrounding. If i train beginners, they see me as alpha, if i train with my dojo-master i am the beta.

@Artemis Lesbian couples have the highest rate of domestic abuse funnily

Yes Jack

@Mysteriedingens right

Other than that, it is dependent on the case in my opinion. I have a roomate and i love being with him. Im not gay but i never get tired of doing things with him, hes like a brother to me

Lol that lesbian statistic seems very possible

Hmmmm

I personally think so but it does depend on how you define going your own way

and how you are quantifying it

I mean gay couples are still subject to the same kinds of laws as hereosexual couples in some states

so the same gynocentric laws do apply

If a man signs a form saying he is the submissive one, he can gain those said resources in divorce court

On the other hand, they are not cohabitating with women. So they are somewhat denying women of resources

I think it depends on their motive

If its out of codependence then no

If its a personal choice where they define that as MGTOW. Then it is an act of MGTOW to them

not personally

I see it as a shaming tactic

Women by default will shame men because they cannot see outside the self

Sounds like a typical American definition... It's mgtow if you want it to be... Regardless of your actions?

They need the co-dependence. It's manufactured power

As for gay cohabitation, it is an alternative. Same could be said for trans too

But it also depends on legal definitions

Meh