I wasnt clear enough

I'm still watching one of sargon's vids, I think the background is a bit boring atm

I think I'll go against my initial statement, dynamic/gaming will help hold interest

The drive to continue the family line comes from my life and the family I come from, genes be damned if you will

if they have kids

and no your genes wont increase.

it gets halved every generation

Its certainly more important to me to raise a child and teach them the ways of the world, that is what is important to pass on, because that is indeed what forms the future

you dont have to have kids to do that. socretes didnt need to have kids for his teachings to be present even today

true

if you want kids. go ahead. its everybodys choice. but dont feel like you need to in order to pass on your legacy and teachings

It's hard to be the last one with the option, I have aging parents, a brother that married an infertile older woman, one dead brother, and I'm the last option, who's for the most part gone mgtow, although I don't consider myself one

yea but thats because you had the kid. if you have a kid you have that responsiblity. but not having a kid means you dont have to teach them. besides. there are plenty of orphans you can teach if you wish.

right, its against reason

you know you could just type out longer segments to avoid the spambot stopping your shit

@Rockets don't have a kid dude

its not a problem. im just giving you dem **pro tips**

anyway what your saying is fine and all. but the facts are still a problem. everything is exponentially more expensive now. were in a big cultural shitstorm where the values of the west are being overtaken, there are huge economic crises on the horizon. and men are basically treated like garbage. do you really want to bring a kid into that? i dont. who cares if i have a bond with the kid. the kid still has to deal with all this bullshit. at least if you adopt a kid. that kid is already here.

^ all of that

plus never bank on your kid not having autism/down syndrome/or shitty health problems like mine (pectus excavatum, polycystic kidneys)

Isn't this just avoiding the problem, isn't the goal to get through all this shitstorm?

Shitstorm is absolutely unavoidable. You are uninformed about the state of the world and what is coming. Straight up.

me? tell that to society

then you are blind

Lmao you're fucking blind then 9030

take a look at /r/collapse

so?

I still believe in the good of mankind, in everyone

what does that have to do with the fact that we have limited resources and the world will become uninhabitable soon?

plenty of people lead happy lives in nazi germany. it was still a terrible place. plenty of people led good lives in communist russia. still there were millions starving.

yeah, I hear that

none of these statements justify bringing a child into this world

shame on you if you do so, straight up

I'm just struggling in giving up the idea entirely, it's a divide

if you want to go ahead. as long as you recognize your responsibility to it and can give it strength and a good start. thats how i see it

i still will see you as an absolute asshole for creating another kid when there's millions of starving orphans. because of your gEnEtIc LeGaCy that no one gives a shit about except your parents.

in response to that. again. changing your life and being a better person has little to do with brining another person into the world to go through the same shit.

@Sam Amari No need to get angry at me, you don't know me or my family's story, dont judge so quickly

great. good for her. i have no interest in that. not in todays world

its up to you to decide your interest in having kids. i dont disparage you for it. nor do i applaud you.