Dude this is well documented, I will send you the link. There's a famous viral comic that illustrates the entire reason for the civil war being climate change.

US meddling is a factor to be sure as well the carving up of the Ottoman empire at the end of WW1

@shadowlessnexus but but but ... Yeah, I agree

Read that comic.

"nearly a million rural villagers lost their farms to the drought"

"they crowded into overcrowded cities like Daraa"

@Sam Amari the middle east has always been a desert or badlands type land scape except by the rivers or the ocean

Tell me, did global warming exist during the days of Gilgamesh when he reigned as king of uruk?

His epics talk of sweltering summers

@Rhunespire it has never been this bad in Syria in recorded history. show me reports of it being this hot in the 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, or 40s. nope

i am not seeing a single citation that links to any research, documents, or anything that proves the comic. therefore ill dismiss it without any evidence

smh

im gonna check out the site that made the comic and look for sources there

@Sam Amari I do agree there is climate change. The issue is how can we truly affect change? The Chinese/Indian aren't doing shit, just the promise. The US has done more than any actual country so far (a country that is actually large - not Europe. They don't count).

@Sam Amari The question is... how can we affect change? What are your proposals?

I say eliminate all food subsidies 😄

Isaac Arthur had an interesting idea

I love that dude.

Build a giant shade that interposes itself between us and the sun

the comic makes many assertions without listing the proof. thats whats expected. because otherwise its just saying stuff

@machtyn I'm thoroughly convinced we can do nothing. We are a cancer on the planet, humans.

so if we are. then why worry about it?

lets keep making the economy better and drive humanity forward

@Sam Amari are you a nihilist?

A realist

@Sam Amari Ok, so let's agree on that. Why would that influence anyone to give a shit then?

A nihilist wouldn't care about any of these issues

ok. but you have no solutions

No, I don't. Just because there are no solutions doesn't make something factually false.

I was a nihilist then I realized it's boring and existentialism is more fun.

so we should just do whats best for humanity then. which is improving the economy and advancing technology assuming your right.

@Sam Amari Ok, agreed. However, it DOES make it a wasted effort and thus I deny your request for taxes.

We simply are going to exhaust all resources. We will not conjure up more oil.

why tax emissions and stop co2 then?

I invest that money in steak, butter and delicious vegetables.

that stuff makes economys better. we should do it as much as possible then. if it doesnt matter then who cares

are we in agreement on that?

@Sam Amari I disagree. Humans are only here to bring our AI masters to life. I am a happy servant to do so.

read /r/collapse if you aren't too scared

sounds like most of you probably are

@shadowlessnexus I can't stop watching shroud on twitch play it and I wants it man! It looks pretty fun but I know it would fall flat without a single player campaign 😦