You won't deny that that's happening, right? That massive amounts of Syrian refugees are being forced to leave their country?

@Sam Amari there is no benefit to denying it. im doing it based on facts. however the governement paying a bunch of scientists to get the results they want lets them put regulations on everything and tax emissions more and more

The Syrian refugees and other migrants is true

Yep, and do you know why they have to leave?

thats something thats factual and happening though

Because they CANT FUCKING GROW CROPS anymore. It's too fucking hot in their country.

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That is FACT.

they are coming here because they want free welfare

..Syria is in the middle a decade long civil war

the civil war

No ones growing anything

it happened because all of the people in the rural regions could not grow crops anymore

they moved into the big cities, and war erupted because there's just sheerly too many people with no job skills except farming

no it happened because the us interevened in the middle east to put dictators they liked in charge in numerous places and ruined the security of the middle eastern communities

that is a direct result of climate change. this will continue to happen, on a grander scale, world wide. I promise you that.

I cant speak to that, I'm ignorant of the causes

not just the us. but they were a big one

Dude this is well documented, I will send you the link. There's a famous viral comic that illustrates the entire reason for the civil war being climate change.

US meddling is a factor to be sure as well the carving up of the Ottoman empire at the end of WW1

@shadowlessnexus but but but ... Yeah, I agree

Read that comic.

"nearly a million rural villagers lost their farms to the drought"

"they crowded into overcrowded cities like Daraa"

@Sam Amari the middle east has always been a desert or badlands type land scape except by the rivers or the ocean

Tell me, did global warming exist during the days of Gilgamesh when he reigned as king of uruk?

His epics talk of sweltering summers

@Rhunespire it has never been this bad in Syria in recorded history. show me reports of it being this hot in the 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, or 40s. nope

i am not seeing a single citation that links to any research, documents, or anything that proves the comic. therefore ill dismiss it without any evidence

smh

im gonna check out the site that made the comic and look for sources there

@Sam Amari I do agree there is climate change. The issue is how can we truly affect change? The Chinese/Indian aren't doing shit, just the promise. The US has done more than any actual country so far (a country that is actually large - not Europe. They don't count).

@Sam Amari The question is... how can we affect change? What are your proposals?

I say eliminate all food subsidies 😄

Isaac Arthur had an interesting idea

I love that dude.

Build a giant shade that interposes itself between us and the sun

the comic makes many assertions without listing the proof. thats whats expected. because otherwise its just saying stuff

@machtyn I'm thoroughly convinced we can do nothing. We are a cancer on the planet, humans.

so if we are. then why worry about it?

lets keep making the economy better and drive humanity forward