Message from @Rhunespire
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Because they CANT FUCKING GROW CROPS anymore. It's too fucking hot in their country.
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That is FACT.
they are coming here because they want free welfare
..Syria is in the middle a decade long civil war
the civil war
No ones growing anything
it happened because all of the people in the rural regions could not grow crops anymore
they moved into the big cities, and war erupted because there's just sheerly too many people with no job skills except farming
no it happened because the us interevened in the middle east to put dictators they liked in charge in numerous places and ruined the security of the middle eastern communities
that is a direct result of climate change. this will continue to happen, on a grander scale, world wide. I promise you that.
I cant speak to that, I'm ignorant of the causes
not just the us. but they were a big one
Dude this is well documented, I will send you the link. There's a famous viral comic that illustrates the entire reason for the civil war being climate change.
US meddling is a factor to be sure as well the carving up of the Ottoman empire at the end of WW1
@shadowlessnexus but but but ... Yeah, I agree
Read that comic.
"nearly a million rural villagers lost their farms to the drought"
"they crowded into overcrowded cities like Daraa"
@Sam Amari the middle east has always been a desert or badlands type land scape except by the rivers or the ocean
His epics talk of sweltering summers
@Rhunespire it has never been this bad in Syria in recorded history. show me reports of it being this hot in the 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, or 40s. nope
i am not seeing a single citation that links to any research, documents, or anything that proves the comic. therefore ill dismiss it without any evidence
smh
im gonna check out the site that made the comic and look for sources there
@Sam Amari I do agree there is climate change. The issue is how can we truly affect change? The Chinese/Indian aren't doing shit, just the promise. The US has done more than any actual country so far (a country that is actually large - not Europe. They don't count).
@Sam Amari The question is... how can we affect change? What are your proposals?
I say eliminate all food subsidies 😄
Isaac Arthur had an interesting idea
I love that dude.
Build a giant shade that interposes itself between us and the sun
the comic makes many assertions without listing the proof. thats whats expected. because otherwise its just saying stuff
@machtyn I'm thoroughly convinced we can do nothing. We are a cancer on the planet, humans.
so if we are. then why worry about it?
lets keep making the economy better and drive humanity forward
@Sam Amari are you a nihilist?
A realist
@Sam Amari Ok, so let's agree on that. Why would that influence anyone to give a shit then?
A nihilist wouldn't care about any of these issues
ok. but you have no solutions