Message from @machtyn
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somebody steal your shit?
what?
what i meant by that is like credit card theft or what
anyway that fucking sucks
was listening to the last tfm stream and giving out kudos
Hm
I see many mgtows ranting *against* nihilism. Even though the very things MGTOW is about is the very definition of existential nihilism
Denying objective meaning and value, taking life as it is and deciding for yourself what you want to do
Well, to be honest, taking terms from philosophy and totaly butchering what it means is common. For example, hedonism. Many people mean cyrenaics if they say hedonism....
the most hedonistic people are probably religious puritans
How so?
they give up A LOT to avoid infinite pain and gain infinite pleasure
Very true.
hedonism is not shortsighted as many think. Cyrenaics are about shortterm pleasure (espacialy physical pleasures)
I agree with that. Also - morally speaking... are they actually moral or just afraid of some god causing them pain?
hedonism is very much concerned with all consequences no matter how distant to net-pleasure (pleasure minus pain)
I personally am masochistic. I fast pretty much every day - only eat one meal a day and I don't know where I got this.
Haha
In terms of eating, im actualy not much different. There are times when i dont eat for 2 days. Its a distraction
Though its more regular now i think, at least one meal a day
Today I got A LOT done so I am treating myself to a fucking steak. So excite.
used to be more scarce, and worst when i had trouble with intense physical pain.
im suffering from trigeminal neuralgia. According to my readings, among the most painful conditions known to man. Worse than giving birth but 24/7 without treatment
And opioid resistant
opioids helped a little bit actualy. Well, the highest permissable dose helped minimaly
not like i got used to opioids though. That was right away
Luckily, i was able to figure out what the issue was and tell my doctors about it, so they gave me drugs which are actualy effective for TGN
Thats kinda a theme, im allways the one that has to diagnose the issues before any doctor is able to do anything about it...
so mgtows rant against nihilism but practice it....do you understand nihilism SIR!!!
@SFM_2046 i do, but im also aware that nihilism is often seen in a very different light than what the philosophy actualy says
elaborate please
"Existential nihilism is the philosophical theory that life has no intrinsic meaning or value." - well, if you get to decide for yourself what you want to do, there is nothing objective about those goals, is there?
Nothing intrinsic to life
and decidign for ourselves is what we do
But
nihilism is often equated with hopelessness and such. That it isnt. Sure,you can be a nihilist and hopeless
Or with not caring about anything. In the end, it just allows you to pick out whatever you want. You dont have to pick out anything, but you can
personaly, i would describe myself as a hedonist. sure, i agree with existential nihilism that there is no intrinsic meaning or value, but i choose the values of hedonism
which, in itself, is another quite broad philosophy. If i gain pleasure from helping others (and i do) then that is a hedonistic act