Message from @Redneo

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2018-10-22 21:25:56 UTC  

what happened?

2018-10-22 21:26:01 UTC  

somebody steal your shit?

2018-10-22 21:26:16 UTC  

what?

2018-10-22 21:26:24 UTC  

what i meant by that is like credit card theft or what

2018-10-22 21:26:33 UTC  

anyway that fucking sucks

2018-10-22 21:26:41 UTC  

was listening to the last tfm stream and giving out kudos

2018-10-22 21:47:23 UTC  

Hm

2018-10-22 21:47:48 UTC  

I see many mgtows ranting *against* nihilism. Even though the very things MGTOW is about is the very definition of existential nihilism

2018-10-22 21:48:10 UTC  

Denying objective meaning and value, taking life as it is and deciding for yourself what you want to do

2018-10-22 21:53:37 UTC  

Well, to be honest, taking terms from philosophy and totaly butchering what it means is common. For example, hedonism. Many people mean cyrenaics if they say hedonism....

2018-10-22 21:54:09 UTC  

@hel Shit I am sorry

2018-10-22 21:54:37 UTC  

the most hedonistic people are probably religious puritans

2018-10-22 21:54:50 UTC  

How so?

2018-10-22 21:55:05 UTC  

they give up A LOT to avoid infinite pain and gain infinite pleasure

2018-10-22 21:55:12 UTC  

Very true.

2018-10-22 21:55:29 UTC  

hedonism is not shortsighted as many think. Cyrenaics are about shortterm pleasure (espacialy physical pleasures)

2018-10-22 21:55:32 UTC  

I agree with that. Also - morally speaking... are they actually moral or just afraid of some god causing them pain?

2018-10-22 21:55:52 UTC  

hedonism is very much concerned with all consequences no matter how distant to net-pleasure (pleasure minus pain)

2018-10-22 21:56:04 UTC  

I personally am masochistic. I fast pretty much every day - only eat one meal a day and I don't know where I got this.

2018-10-22 21:56:19 UTC  

Haha

2018-10-22 21:56:57 UTC  

In terms of eating, im actualy not much different. There are times when i dont eat for 2 days. Its a distraction

2018-10-22 21:57:18 UTC  

Yes!

2018-10-22 21:57:31 UTC  

Though its more regular now i think, at least one meal a day

2018-10-22 21:57:37 UTC  

Today I got A LOT done so I am treating myself to a fucking steak. So excite.

2018-10-22 21:57:51 UTC  

used to be more scarce, and worst when i had trouble with intense physical pain.

2018-10-22 21:58:39 UTC  

im suffering from trigeminal neuralgia. According to my readings, among the most painful conditions known to man. Worse than giving birth but 24/7 without treatment

2018-10-22 21:58:55 UTC  

And opioid resistant

2018-10-22 21:59:25 UTC  

opioids helped a little bit actualy. Well, the highest permissable dose helped minimaly

2018-10-22 21:59:46 UTC  

not like i got used to opioids though. That was right away

2018-10-22 22:00:20 UTC  

Luckily, i was able to figure out what the issue was and tell my doctors about it, so they gave me drugs which are actualy effective for TGN

2018-10-22 22:01:15 UTC  

Thats kinda a theme, im allways the one that has to diagnose the issues before any doctor is able to do anything about it...

2018-10-22 22:01:22 UTC  

so mgtows rant against nihilism but practice it....do you understand nihilism SIR!!!

2018-10-22 22:02:08 UTC  

@SFM_2046 i do, but im also aware that nihilism is often seen in a very different light than what the philosophy actualy says

2018-10-22 22:02:24 UTC  

elaborate please

2018-10-22 22:03:16 UTC  

"Existential nihilism is the philosophical theory that life has no intrinsic meaning or value." - well, if you get to decide for yourself what you want to do, there is nothing objective about those goals, is there?

2018-10-22 22:03:32 UTC  

Nothing intrinsic to life

2018-10-22 22:04:15 UTC  

and decidign for ourselves is what we do

2018-10-22 22:04:56 UTC  

But

2018-10-22 22:05:27 UTC  

nihilism is often equated with hopelessness and such. That it isnt. Sure,you can be a nihilist and hopeless

2018-10-22 22:06:28 UTC  

Or with not caring about anything. In the end, it just allows you to pick out whatever you want. You dont have to pick out anything, but you can

2018-10-22 22:07:20 UTC  

personaly, i would describe myself as a hedonist. sure, i agree with existential nihilism that there is no intrinsic meaning or value, but i choose the values of hedonism