Message from @KingGiraffasaur
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So if we are avoiding marriage and cohabitation, that would imply that we are trying not to REGRESS
Because if you get married, divorce, and lose half your money, that is regression
Self improvement part the way I see it is just a consequence of going their own, not a part of it by itself, I guess that's what he's getting at.
@KD learning to defend yourself IS a form of improvement, this is all symantics now
Unless you're telling me that being MGTOW is all about being content with mediocrity, the only other option is to PROGRESS
is there a debate VC?
It's to improve
@KD having the knowledge to make better decisions is the improvement, do you not see having better judgement as a change for the better?
So you're not MGTOW
You're red pill
Or better yet, you haven't accepted one of the core tenants of MGTOW, which is AWALT
I guess I get KD's point. Self improvement only comes after, primarily it's a just response to things. Not something that is inclusive of it. At least that's what I think he's trying to get at.
Or some believe in unicorns
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The question becomes, why even improve yourself?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That is for the individual to answer.
I do it because it gives me fufillment
I would do it because I don't want to end up broke Lol.
and it allows me to leave behind a better world for men, through charity and through passing down knowledge
Possibly better health.
That makes sense, i can see how MGTOW is a retreat from feminism and society that nutures toxic mindsets.
@JDB Man of culture to mention dunning-kruger effect. I like this one, so true today
@KD no because he is not making his path in life any more defined or positive
He may be achieving a goal, but he as a physical being, is no better for it
Is his health improved by doing this?
Is his mind improved?
Are his skills improved? (this one perhaps)
Those are just examples I have of bettering yourself
WOW?
World Of Warcraft
Hell no i use my drawing skills in surgery
@KD it's about things that add quality to your life and help you know yourself better so you can live with a purpose
U wanna see my nunchuck skillz ?? 🤪
But if that is someone's goal then who are you to tell them to do something else?
Well, I like learning new shit for the sake of learning new shit, I just want to know stuff, it doesn't improve me but it fulfills me.
Again what are you getting at?
I thought the context was the fundamental tenants of mgtow and how self improvement has anything to do with it.
I smell nihilism