@machtyn ANY book on non-fiction?

Yeah

@Sigma same here

Anything by Robert Greene really

Seduction is hit or miss - not for MGTOWs, but it's useful knowledge

Yeah, I've been reading a ton of Robert Greene. I am reading some Mises books now.

A lot of PUAs are into seductions

I love me some economics.

@machtyn how about this one: https://www.amazon.com/Regions-Captivity-2016-Ana-Ferrell-ebook/dp/B01CAJ131I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543345891&sr=8-1&keywords=ana+mendez+ferrell+books

I am going back and forth with minanarchist and ancap.

never was into seducing (TRICKING) women

@ValleyAnt I'm not really into religion that deep.

I always cared too much for women to trick them

@machtyn you asked

No, you're right 😉 Thanks for your suggestion!

I have no reason to trick women

thats why these idiot women TURN ME OFF so much-- cuz they are far more capable than they act... and they are far more human than they've become

what they see is what they get for the most part

well seduction is trickery

plain and simple

exactly

It's good to know about Seduction in case people try it against you

Same thing with manipulation, learn manipulation tactics too

That way you can prevent bad shit from happeneing

I hate it when women ask me for small favors they could easily do themselves

here's non-seduction:

Man: Hi
Woman: Hey
Man: You're pretty and I'd like to have sex with you... maybe after we sit and chat a bit... if you want
Woman: ...I guess. I want that too. But let's sort of go slow, okay?
Man: I just want sex
Woman: Okay, hold on. Let me get my purse

And voi-frigging-la, you have honesty right there and no games or deception or seduction

or anybody for that matter

yeah

a hippie tried to seduce me

that's part of the reason why I don't try. Women know when men want, but you have to play a fucking game to get it

If two people are attracted to each other, why can't they just be upfront and direct? Instead of playing a little game

her tits looked decent especially cuz she didnt wear bras (didnt believe in them, feminist) but her unshaven legs were the last straw for me (besides that she was struggling and had two little kids)... I turned her down... then she took me to court on false charges of threats, intimidation, and making sexual passes at her AND her two daughters (2 and 4 years old). Outstanding... The court didnt go for it but I did get a restraining order. I was totally in the right... But I dont like being seduced and I hate seducing others even more

If you do it right, you have to learn how to flirt, how to interact properly, have social proof, have status and money, etc...you know PUA stuff. Fuck that not worth the effort

What a fucking headache

her nipples constantly poking thru her shirt... trying to seduce and use men... and she was bi too

hell no Im not performing for ANYONE

That another reason I don't bother with getting a GF...One might like you and also be crazy

Majority of the women are Bi.

Some of them are lesbians.

I dont like doing gfs as they believe that ONLY THEIR AGENDA matters

Crazy, hot, and Attracted to you...That's trouble right there