single moms n welfare states n all that are only symptoms of the gynocentrism/ statism conflict problem that occur n one form or anoother n every civ

@ziyauren Exactly.

Which is why every civ encountered the same problems we are having now. Hence, why I think DNA altering is the only perm solution.

dna modification only intensifies the complexity.... it doesn't solve the prob... don't fix what ain't broken😉

It's scifi now, I get it. I'm not saying this will happen in our time obviously, but I don't see a way to escape the cycle in another way. The reason we are in a historical cycle is because "our DNA collectively is broken" imo. We'd have to remove the possibility of there be people existing who could possibly create the problems we have now, just who created those problem in the previous civs. Else history will just repeat itself.

actually the four by four by four solution i spoke of b4 is the only thing i've seen that has potential... they can if properly executed could alter n stop the next cycle from completing...

Legit the biggest step any civilisation will have to make is removing one gender from the equation, wether it be by puppy milling women, sperm milking men, or the best solution, replace women with the artificial womb and sex dolls and boom half of our species which are incompetent vindictive children die out and man can reach their full potential

But how do you prevent there from being people who believe in equality/marxism etc and other bullshit which contradicts nature, those people will always exist in some time and place in the future without DNA altering and will cause another collapse and again etc.

no ... not removing the gender but changing its role

Yeh that’s better wording z

the gender is needed for evolutionary survival but is destructive in its current implementation

But women would die out though, if they are replaced by artificial wombs and sex dolls they will just die out?

we wouldn't want this to become the evolutionary filter for intelligent species n cause a fermi paradox result

How so, wouldn’t replacing women prevent a Fermi paradox?

even with artificial wombs the maintanance of surrogate mothers would block their extinction n give them value

I believe I read somewhere that sperm can be repurposed into an egg of sorts though

it might prevent it but we can't know and it would limit our options which is a bad thing evolutionarily

I mean we've been going through this cycle for thousands of years and multiple civs. At some point you gotta acknowledge it's us as people (our DNA), from a macro perspective, and not something that can be altered at any other level.

I don’t remember the source I’d have to look for it

can't throw the baby out w//the bath water... a very bad idea

Because it's worked so far? Never has so far, as we can glance from the historical record.

and technically its not actually broken jus improperly used

True

if it couldn't work n some way no new civs would have been produced

we would have bbeen sterile from the get

@ziyauren But that's the point, we're not sterile, but we haven't escaped the cycle either, not even once as a species.

the prob is not the species but the cycle

But all the species has demonstrated is the cycle, nothing else.

we have proven all through our existance that we can modify our environments to prosper.... that is our strength and the solution

it won't b easy but that has never stopped us b4... lets not give rise to stagnation

stagnation is a proven species kkiller

@ziyauren We can modify our environment sure, we always have. In fact every civ has improved all kinds of things. But every civ has encountered that same majority of individuals whom eventually caused its downfall.

read what i jus said😉

I just want losers to die honestly

I’m getting a bit heated in my head

DNA alteration isn't stagnation, it's escaping the cycle imo. Why would you think after so many failed cycles, things will change significantly at any time.

I think i really need to find that old manuscript n redo that book... n the right environment losers would die honestly,,, but we need to create n control that environment as we always have🤔

i'm not saying no to dna mods... jus sayin the elimination of half the species is not the answer

dna mods r a supplement.... not the cure

also dna mods r not modifying the environment.... they r fundamentally changing us

@ziyauren I agree. Well, when I say DNA alterations and how we change it and in which specific way, that's a diff discussion. Could have to do with making everyone "equal", could have to do with altering it in such a way "losers" won't exist. That's a whole different discussion. I'm just saying without altering it in any way that we, as a species, won't escape the cycle, if we take history as a barometer.