Message from @Justinian

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2019-01-08 03:00:50 UTC  

Because it's worked so far? Never has so far, as we can glance from the historical record.

2019-01-08 03:00:55 UTC  

and technically its not actually broken jus improperly used

2019-01-08 03:01:08 UTC  

True

2019-01-08 03:01:39 UTC  

if it couldn't work n some way no new civs would have been produced

2019-01-08 03:02:01 UTC  

we would have bbeen sterile from the get

2019-01-08 03:02:37 UTC  

@ziyauren But that's the point, we're not sterile, but we haven't escaped the cycle either, not even once as a species.

2019-01-08 03:02:58 UTC  

the prob is not the species but the cycle

2019-01-08 03:03:24 UTC  

But all the species has demonstrated is the cycle, nothing else.

2019-01-08 03:04:03 UTC  

we have proven all through our existance that we can modify our environments to prosper.... that is our strength and the solution

2019-01-08 03:05:03 UTC  

it won't b easy but that has never stopped us b4... lets not give rise to stagnation

2019-01-08 03:05:28 UTC  

stagnation is a proven species kkiller

2019-01-08 03:05:40 UTC  

@ziyauren We can modify our environment sure, we always have. In fact every civ has improved all kinds of things. But every civ has encountered that same majority of individuals whom eventually caused its downfall.

2019-01-08 03:06:09 UTC  

read what i jus said😉

2019-01-08 03:06:58 UTC  

I just want losers to die honestly

2019-01-08 03:07:10 UTC  

I’m getting a bit heated in my head

2019-01-08 03:07:28 UTC  

DNA alteration isn't stagnation, it's escaping the cycle imo. Why would you think after so many failed cycles, things will change significantly at any time.

2019-01-08 03:08:17 UTC  

I think i really need to find that old manuscript n redo that book... n the right environment losers would die honestly,,, but we need to create n control that environment as we always have🤔

2019-01-08 03:09:35 UTC  

i'm not saying no to dna mods... jus sayin the elimination of half the species is not the answer

2019-01-08 03:10:27 UTC  

dna mods r a supplement.... not the cure

2019-01-08 03:12:23 UTC  

also dna mods r not modifying the environment.... they r fundamentally changing us

2019-01-08 03:12:58 UTC  

@ziyauren I agree. Well, when I say DNA alterations and how we change it and in which specific way, that's a diff discussion. Could have to do with making everyone "equal", could have to do with altering it in such a way "losers" won't exist. That's a whole different discussion. I'm just saying without altering it in any way that we, as a species, won't escape the cycle, if we take history as a barometer.

2019-01-08 03:14:34 UTC  

even if u r right everyone will never be equal.... at the very least we need what i'm talking about to make that transition even possible...

2019-01-08 03:17:39 UTC  

@ziyauren True, theoretically we could alter DNA in such a way people would be more close together, in such a way that the phenotypes won't have as many deviations in the DNA so that we won't have as many "losers" in the future. The only reason they collapse civs is because there are too many of them. So if we can reduce the deviations in the DNA to make people "more equal", we have a bigger chance we won't have the same outcome as previous civs.

2019-01-08 03:18:05 UTC  

btw... history doesn't repeat itself... it only rhymes😉

2019-01-08 03:18:43 UTC  

Well it repeats itself in the sense civs collapse. Every one has so far.

2019-01-08 03:19:27 UTC  

i gottaa get a drink n m tired of typin so go to voice pls... m njoyiin the convo but its gettin late n i need to stop typin...lol

2019-01-08 03:20:19 UTC  

@ziyauren I actually need to go as well. Was a very good conversation though. We should continue it sometime. Thanks.

2019-01-08 03:20:52 UTC  

lets do voice next time,,, this laptop is a pain n the butt..lol

2019-01-08 03:21:01 UTC  

Hehe, yea sure.

2019-01-08 03:21:06 UTC  

Laters man

2019-01-08 03:21:12 UTC  

l8rs man

2019-01-08 03:43:08 UTC  

someone knows Driven and Desired yt channel?

2019-01-08 03:44:48 UTC  

he has also a webpage with this name

2019-01-08 03:49:04 UTC  

@afieq408 I am the plug

2019-01-08 03:49:07 UTC  

Thanks tho

2019-01-08 03:50:55 UTC  

Wtf no

2019-01-08 03:51:11 UTC  

Wtf no

2019-01-08 03:51:35 UTC  

I need an adult

2019-01-08 03:51:43 UTC  

Someone save me from this creep

2019-01-08 03:54:38 UTC  

Break it up you two 👀

2019-01-08 03:54:57 UTC  

No rape in my Christian server