damn why can atheists be satisfied with atheism

Ask C.S. Lewis. His quote about moral busybodies can apply to anyone, religious or not.

>>The thing is the atheist movement needed to happen
Hahahah, no

@Tr1bal They can, but people aren't typically possessed by just one view.

It's like saying "why can't religious people just be religious and not turn their belief into fundamentalist oppressive horseshit?" Well they can in fact do that, and they often do. But they have complex minds filled with many other views besides their god-worship.

I think the real issue was that, as the atheist movement grew big online, it was turned into a platform for other views unrelated to atheism, since it was useful enough for that. So the atheist platform was turned into one of... I guess progressivism in this case. They got the attention, so they took that opportunity instead of building the progressivist movement from scratch on a new platform. Or maybe some of their followers just kept following naturally because they were now interested in the preacher as much as in the message.
And why exactly progressivism? That might be because the atheists at that time wanted to *escape/end the status quo,* which is in line with the progressivist mindset, so it worked as a follow-up?

The weird part is it started out as a way to keep religious doctrine affecting legislation, then to keeping all religious iconography out of government altogether, then somehow embracing islam.

Might be because of dualism or something. I'm good, therefore all who aren't like me must be evil.

Dualism kinda requires that the enemy of my enemy must be my friend. Of course that's not logical, but it doesn't neccessarily have to be applied logically and consistently.

Man is a spiritual animal. The fact that atheist movements devolve into weird quasi-religions prove this.

I think it's even more weird that they jumped from bashing one Abrahamic religion to embracing another. There's religions out there like Buddhism and Taoism that you could consider "atheistic." But somehow it turned into an anti-patriotic movement.

Wow, it's almost like the United States is based on a Civic religion and any atheistic movement pushed would inherently be anti nationalistic as it would serve to deconstruct our founding mythos
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

>builds civilization on Civic religion
>promotes atheism
>Society implodes
https://en.meming.world/images/en/thumb/2/2c/Surprised_Pikachu_HD.jpg/300px-Surprised_Pikachu_HD.jpg

What did people honestly expect

The Bible is 50/50 split on whether borders should be open or not.

So much to the claim that it's atheism, not something else, that spreads anti-nationalist rhetoric.

Religion gay

You know, I've come to the conclusion that there are things in motion that not only can't be stopped and when the blood of the sinner is spilled the Trumpet of Gabriel sounds.

If borders ceased to exist, the US would take over Mexico immediately and continue working their way south.

If we can't draw a line, then we'll have to make geographic borders, TO THE SEA!!

We can be an island nation if we try hard enough

@Medeyer other way around buddy

so your saying we take over canada?

Well that's easy, half of them are French so they'll just surrender. And they're all Canadian, so they'll just hand it over when we ask to be polite

Only if we get to make the entire country wear blackface and eat watermelons.

Why would anyone want Mexico <:disgusteng:595338918044500041>?

Tourism industry, if it wasn't overrun by cartels Mexico would have a decent economy just from people visiting

personally im an atheist cause I think god is bullshit but I can also see that western civilization was build on morals from christianity and hellenic cultures so i think we should also preserve those

Have you ever thought that maybe those morals worked because they are true?

They at least function as if true. Which is true enough for the average person

those morals work because they give a good foundation for a succesful civilization that doesnt make it true tho or the only way china has a compltely different religious system and they still founded a succesful civilization

Is it as successful as ours?

Japan was built on Buddhism. China was built on Confucianism and Taoism. India was built on Hinduism.

Religions that place value in the individual

@Medeyer I'm pretty sure Japan's native religion is shintoism

Yeah, old Japan was built around Shintoism

But in more modern history, Buddhism is more prominent

Personally, I hope Christianity becomes more prominent in Japan.

It's already pretty prominent

But the Japanese approach towards religion is different, as a culture they grow up being taught religion in the same way as Grimm fairy tales. Life lesson parables you're supposed to learn from. Not the literal word of God

The abrahamics need to leave those nice Japanese people alone lol

That thing about zoomers being more conservative than millennials?
> A poll seen exclusively by The Independent found one in four 18- to 24-year-olds thought LGBT+ people were “immoral” or that homosexuality contravened their beliefs, compared to one in five across all age groups.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homophobia-lgbt-hate-crime-young-people-gay-trans-poll-research-a9157111.html