Message from @ARockRaider
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And the idea that fascism is generally left/center
hitler wasn't nationalist so much as he was an Imperialist. Trump is a nationalist and has no desire to go around conquering other countries
Yep
It was called the Third Reich, not the Third Nation
And he conquered, he didn't protect
i don't see how nationalist and imperialist are mutually exclusive categories
also his foreign policy was largely based around taking back german territory
The point is the narrative of nationalism = evil
By demonstrating that Hitler wasn't even nationalist in the first place, it becomes easier to defeat the less informed crowd
i mean you can't demonstrate that because he very obviously was
He was no more nationalist than any other leader
are you saying that in the sense of speaking to hitler's private beliefs
because his ideology was certainly very nationalistic
I find it funny that "I want my country to be the best it can be" is a bad thing now.
or "I want my country to look after it's own interests first" is a bad thing.
I look at Hitler's actions first, his words second. Nothing about his actions strikes me as more nationalistic than any other leader ever.
Because it's supremacist colonialist bigotry to admit to liking your country
is that sarcasm?
It tis the language of my people
I could understand how being nationalist could be a racest thing if you consider race part of your national identity.
but for me that has never been the case.
Race isn't part of American identity
right, so being an American nationalist isn't a bad thing.
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Just means you love America
And the people who love it as well
Being a nationalist is never bad
Being a jingo is
infact i would say being an American nationalist is one of the best things you could be.
I want to see every country be the best it can be, i'm still always going to think mine is the one worth rooting for just like people do with their football teams.
and that's part of the fun of the sport!
if dems cared about their neighborhoods and neighbors as much as they care about telling everyone else what to do, they wouldn't have so many homeless and people shitting in their streets.
that is a fact
I might be biased considering my parents fled the gulags of China and Cambodia to here. I'd say we've got the best damn thing going here. Modern day leftists/socialists/communists *insert -ists* nowadays have no clue how good we have it here.
you can be a "my neighborhood is #1" person without being evil or opressive
I think nationalism is connected to race, it can exist outside of it but for the most part they exist together
Only when your nation is defined by ethnicity
For most nations yes they're hard to be decoupled with race, tho for 'Americans', that's not easily distinguishable anymore. It's become a lot more diverse due to all the immigrants of the world and it is more united by culture than race.
America is defined by ideals
no, it just happens to have worked out that way before lots of traveling was easy
Not traits
nations tend to have similar races because they were historically that way