Message from @Tiberius

Discord ID: 651495082742251544


2019-12-03 18:41:41 UTC  

"The principles the USA was founded on led to slavery being abolished here."
now that I KNOW is true.

2019-12-03 18:42:06 UTC  

UK did it on religious grounds

2019-12-03 18:42:26 UTC  

We have a set of seccular universal values

2019-12-03 18:43:00 UTC  

I think those values were based on our religious heritage, but i think the basic values can stand on their own.

2019-12-03 18:43:10 UTC  

The enlightenment helped.

2019-12-03 18:43:30 UTC  

I'm on the fence in terms of it being truly secular values or it simply being a derivative off of religious values.

2019-12-03 18:43:36 UTC  

"Don't hurt people and don't take their stuff" seems simple enough.
or "how would you like it if they did that to you?"

2019-12-03 18:44:03 UTC  

@TheGhostAgent. I think it's hard to really split them up too much.

2019-12-03 18:44:04 UTC  

Was talking w/the Mrs in terms of how we have to at least acknowledge religion playing a major role in human history and how it was a seed for enlightenment values

2019-12-03 18:44:20 UTC  

but I wouldn't discount the place that we got them form for sure.

2019-12-03 18:44:38 UTC  

Some religious values are from general wisdom too

2019-12-03 18:44:55 UTC  

The lines are blurred in some cases

2019-12-03 18:45:17 UTC  

Yeah the whole 3/5ths thing was to prevent southern states from getting too many electoral votes. The first state to end slavery was only a couple years after the revolution, I think Maine?

2019-12-03 18:45:25 UTC  

Yea well, talk to any modern day atheist who thinks religion is only bad bad bad and have 0 role in society. It makes me wonder whether or not they're just parroting shit from their teachers or colleagues to look 'cool/educated' or if they actually understand the arguments behind atheism.

2019-12-03 18:45:46 UTC  

i'm gonna go with they are parrots.

2019-12-03 18:45:49 UTC  

I think parroting

2019-12-03 18:45:51 UTC  

Usually they are

2019-12-03 18:47:03 UTC  

If you havent actually studied the subject matter and you are just mad because christian mommy and daddy wouldnt let you smoke weed and grounded you for getting your 13 year old girlfriend pregnant then you are a parrot

2019-12-03 18:47:31 UTC  

rofl. Did you just assume their relationship status?! Boyfriends can get pregnant too! REEEEEEEE!!! /s

2019-12-03 18:48:51 UTC  

I know you are being hyperbolic

2019-12-03 18:49:10 UTC  

But fuck if that doesnt make me want to burn down an LGBT shelter

2019-12-03 18:49:34 UTC  

My hypothesis of the enlightenment "inspiration" is how religion/christianity decoupled itself from having a top-down approach of salvation (Catholic church/Pope) to a bottom up (Protestants/Lutherans) where your relationship is directly w/God, not through a intermediary channel.

Which evolved to 'individual human rights' no longer being given to the populace by Kings and Lords (top down), but rather the individuals have born rights naturally.

2019-12-03 18:49:50 UTC  

ThatmomentwhenLGBTrelationshipsarethestatisticallymostabusive

2019-12-03 18:50:45 UTC  

Yea, lesbian relationships are statistically more abusive than any other kind of relationship... who woulda thunk angry women would also be very vindictive to each other? 🤷‍♂️

2019-12-03 18:51:10 UTC  

Ancient chinese symbol for trouble is two women under one roof

2019-12-03 18:51:29 UTC  

Kamala is Gone <:CrabRave:590859147541741583> <:CrabRave:590859147541741583> <:CrabRave:590859147541741583>

2019-12-03 18:51:37 UTC  

ROFL

2019-12-03 18:51:39 UTC  

THAT CAN'T BE A REAL TWEET

2019-12-03 18:51:45 UTC  

Sad panda

2019-12-03 18:51:57 UTC  

Actually Warren is 1/1000th NAmerican soooo not all white

2019-12-03 18:52:00 UTC  

Am I doing this right?

2019-12-03 18:52:42 UTC  

Translation: Warren is the whitest woman in America. Richard Spencer has given up his crown to her.

2019-12-03 18:53:09 UTC  

Nick Fuentes is pretty fucking white

2019-12-03 18:53:12 UTC  

That and her ancestors are more linked to the efforts to genocide the native Americans.

2019-12-03 18:53:56 UTC  

***points at forehead*** Which means she's related to the Native Americans. She never specified how.

2019-12-03 18:54:50 UTC  

Aww~ Cannot debate that point. ^^

2019-12-03 18:57:53 UTC  

but wait is Kamala for real gone?

2019-12-03 18:58:42 UTC  

Yep.

2019-12-03 18:59:11 UTC  

Looks like it's a Warren candidacy.