Message from @Jokerfaic
Discord ID: 651883334326026259
if its feigned its not fucking ignorance, holy fucking shit, pay fucking attention
You clearly didn't pay attention
I didn't argue that lying is ignorance, or vica versa
THEN WHY FUCKING BRING UP FEIGNING IGNORNCE
THAT WAS NEVER THE TOPIC
THAT WAS ENTIRELY YOU
Stop yelling and start following the train of thought, this is not a one-way conversation where only I have to make an effort
you can cut half your effort and not bring up unrelated garbage
It's not my fault if you conflate different ideas that I never conflated
you literally inserted feigning ignorance into the discussion
that was you
not me
I said ignorance
you inserted feign
And it was you who claimed that I equated lying to ignorance
Which I did not
then WHY BRING IT UP AT ALL
You could understand the reason for me bringing it up if you calmed down for a minute and instead of trying to break my argument tried to understand it
motherfucker, your claim was ignorance does not imply innocence, I asked how, and you next fucking statement referred to feigning ignorance. this is entirely your failure of communication
No, I gave the example of breaking the law unknowingly
if its feigned its not fucking unknowing
...holy shit did I walk into a shit storm?
The '06-08 debacle was self inflicted. There was very few "innocent" bystanders considering many parties were themselves guilty of their predicament. It's not just the bankers, but govt policy makers and voters who wanted "guaranteed and affordable housing" for everyone, regardless of their shitty credit.
NINJA loans (No Income, No Job/Assets) - I mean seriously? You cannot claim ignorance or "innocence" in this aspect.
The bulk of ppl who got hammered lived WAY BEYOND their means, purchasing homes they knew they could not afford thinking money is "free". So I'd have to agree w/ @ETBrooD on this.
And I never equated those to things
You did that by yourself
two*
then your sentence etiquette is fucking atrocious
... dude, are you done ad hom'ing?
absolutely no reason whatsoever you should have brought up dishonesty
smh
derailed the entire discussion
This entire convo log is just you REEEEEEING while presenting lil coherent thought
You derailed it all by yourself, honestly
how the fuck do you insert a foreign item into the discussion and suddenly disavow any responsibility?!
I'm only repeating myself at this time, so yeah this seems to go nowhere
What was the original topic being discussed ?
Poverty and the percentage of "responsibility" of one's own predicament
you're a god damn disgrace. I'll say it again. the topic was ignorance vs innocence. you brought up feigning ignorance. You inserted an unrelated item. but magically its my fucking fault
Ignorance is not a defensible position in the court of law lol
I'll try to lay it out for you as simply as possible
I accuse most of the people who appear ignorant of mostly just feigning ignorance, but that doesn't detract from the argument that their ignorance does not make them innocent. Either way it is the exact same argument. Because whether someone is actually ignorant or only feigns ignorance is entirely irrelevant.