you can cut half your effort and not bring up unrelated garbage

It's not my fault if you conflate different ideas that I never conflated

you literally inserted feigning ignorance into the discussion

that was you

not me

I said ignorance

you inserted feign

And it was you who claimed that I equated lying to ignorance

Which I did not

then WHY BRING IT UP AT ALL

You could understand the reason for me bringing it up if you calmed down for a minute and instead of trying to break my argument tried to understand it

motherfucker, your claim was ignorance does not imply innocence, I asked how, and you next fucking statement referred to feigning ignorance. this is entirely your failure of communication

No, I gave the example of breaking the law unknowingly

yes, unknowingly

if its feigned its not fucking unknowing

...holy shit did I walk into a shit storm?
The '06-08 debacle was self inflicted. There was very few "innocent" bystanders considering many parties were themselves guilty of their predicament. It's not just the bankers, but govt policy makers and voters who wanted "guaranteed and affordable housing" for everyone, regardless of their shitty credit.

NINJA loans (No Income, No Job/Assets) - I mean seriously? You cannot claim ignorance or "innocence" in this aspect.

The bulk of ppl who got hammered lived WAY BEYOND their means, purchasing homes they knew they could not afford thinking money is "free". So I'd have to agree w/ @ETBrooD on this.

And I never equated those to things

You did that by yourself

two*

then your sentence etiquette is fucking atrocious

... dude, are you done ad hom'ing?

absolutely no reason whatsoever you should have brought up dishonesty

smh

derailed the entire discussion

This entire convo log is just you REEEEEEING while presenting lil coherent thought

You derailed it all by yourself, honestly

how the fuck do you insert a foreign item into the discussion and suddenly disavow any responsibility?!

I'm only repeating myself at this time, so yeah this seems to go nowhere

What was the original topic being discussed ?

Poverty and the percentage of "responsibility" of one's own predicament

you're a god damn disgrace. I'll say it again. the topic was ignorance vs innocence. you brought up feigning ignorance. You inserted an unrelated item. but magically its my fucking fault

Ignorance is not a defensible position in the court of law lol

I'll try to lay it out for you as simply as possible

I accuse most of the people who appear ignorant of mostly just feigning ignorance, but that doesn't detract from the argument that their ignorance does not make them innocent. Either way it is the exact same argument. Because whether someone is actually ignorant or only feigns ignorance is entirely irrelevant.

Have a good afternoon gentleman. Bill of rights above all and such

So you put emphasis on my saying "feigning ignorance is not acceptable" even though that was not the argument I was making, it was my trying to demonstrate that I think even lower of those people than perhaps other people would.

if it wasn't your argument why fucking insert it into the discussion?

Reminder the Bill of Rights were amendments

Because you're not talking to a robot, but to a human

If you demand me to behave like a robot, don't even talk to me at all

>I'm a human bean
the least I expect is coherent communication.