Message from @calman21
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of course not. Economists are in the business of making determinations against certainties or uncertainties, not guarantees
but make a case
The entire point of UBI is similar to what goes on in Alaska, rather than the money just going to the government it goes to the citizens
oh jesus fuck, the worst person in the country to bitch about chumming up with war criminals
great, now no one will care
thank you, you devil
Alaska does this with the oil companies up there, the governor basically said "well we have to tax them more, do you want the money or should it be turned over to the feds"
Alaskans presently get 2k a year from oil money
This would have to be more heavily considered as automation starts to do away with more and more jobs
wonder how Texas doesn't get that from its oil and gold infrastructure
Unarmed security, food service, trucking, clerical work and call center work etc.
Trucking is the most populated industry in the country and that industry is seeing the predawn glow of automation and will be largely automated for OTR operations, local jobs will still exist but thats up in the air with stores doing more direct deliveries from DCs
Food service would be laughably easy to automate and so would call centers and clerical jobs
Acounting
Etc.
As the digital era advances our service economy will disappear in favor of an information economy
I am somewhat insulated from this as a comp science major but not everyone can be one
So do we just let the feds scoop up all that money in corporate taxes or do we do what alaska did?
Yeah, dad being a software engineer doesn't hurt
Where the oil companies pay a dividend to the citizens rather than higher taxes
Okay, so first, so if the government is in such little need of taxes that they are actually giving tax money to the citizenry, why don't they just tax the citizens at 0% and make the companies pay for everything instead of UBI?
Of course current pricing models will completely collapse when wages are eliminated
maybe oil companies could directly subsidize gas prices
or is that too short a circuit
U are assuming that if a company CAN eliminate a job in place of automation, they will
Why did Ford begin paying his workers a higher wage?
If its a net financial benefit, yes
corporations are machines, we created them to fulfil one purpose, create wealth
It might of not been ford, I am dumb, general motors,
for good or ill, that's what they'll do
because General Motors is on thin fucking ice after the.... fuck, was it the first or second recession
Who did Trump pardon that's supposedly a war criminal?
whichever one was during Obama's first term
Idk, my point here is that the owner of general motors began paying his workers a far higher wage because he needed people to be able to buy his cars
off the top of my head I'd guess the Gallagher case
Im speaking of the past, like in the 20's
Oh yeah, that Manning dude.
well no fucking shit, in the 20s you had basic bitch manual operated machines
fast food is def gonna keep automating as min wage increases
oh the kid who reported on civi killings from US military drone strikes?
Oil companies are already lowering gas prices. Indirectly. The shale revolution has altered the entire crack chain so lite ends (like gas) have become cheaper because shale produces more of them.