Message from @Frost509

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2019-12-06 06:30:52 UTC  

Yeah, dad being a software engineer doesn't hurt

2019-12-06 06:31:11 UTC  

Where the oil companies pay a dividend to the citizens rather than higher taxes

2019-12-06 06:31:27 UTC  

Okay, so first, so if the government is in such little need of taxes that they are actually giving tax money to the citizenry, why don't they just tax the citizens at 0% and make the companies pay for everything instead of UBI?

2019-12-06 06:31:31 UTC  

Of course current pricing models will completely collapse when wages are eliminated

2019-12-06 06:31:37 UTC  

maybe oil companies could directly subsidize gas prices

2019-12-06 06:31:55 UTC  

or is that too short a circuit

2019-12-06 06:33:00 UTC  

U are assuming that if a company CAN eliminate a job in place of automation, they will

2019-12-06 06:33:33 UTC  

Why did Ford begin paying his workers a higher wage?

2019-12-06 06:33:37 UTC  

If its a net financial benefit, yes

2019-12-06 06:34:05 UTC  

corporations are machines, we created them to fulfil one purpose, create wealth

2019-12-06 06:34:24 UTC  

It might of not been ford, I am dumb, general motors,

2019-12-06 06:34:24 UTC  

for good or ill, that's what they'll do

2019-12-06 06:35:03 UTC  

because General Motors is on thin fucking ice after the.... fuck, was it the first or second recession

2019-12-06 06:35:39 UTC  

Who did Trump pardon that's supposedly a war criminal?

2019-12-06 06:35:39 UTC  

whichever one was during Obama's first term

2019-12-06 06:36:14 UTC  

Idk, my point here is that the owner of general motors began paying his workers a far higher wage because he needed people to be able to buy his cars

2019-12-06 06:36:23 UTC  

off the top of my head I'd guess the Gallagher case

2019-12-06 06:36:42 UTC  

Im speaking of the past, like in the 20's

2019-12-06 06:37:04 UTC  

Oh yeah, that Manning dude.

2019-12-06 06:37:08 UTC  

well no fucking shit, in the 20s you had basic bitch manual operated machines

2019-12-06 06:37:16 UTC  

fast food is def gonna keep automating as min wage increases

2019-12-06 06:37:22 UTC  

oh the kid who reported on civi killings from US military drone strikes?

2019-12-06 06:37:25 UTC  

Oil companies are already lowering gas prices. Indirectly. The shale revolution has altered the entire crack chain so lite ends (like gas) have become cheaper because shale produces more of them.

2019-12-06 06:37:31 UTC  

Corporations won't automate all our jobs away if it leaves the citizenry with no income to spend on their goods

2019-12-06 06:37:40 UTC  

electronic computation was a non-ambulatory swimming sperm is someone's brain testicles

2019-12-06 06:37:53 UTC  

you assume corporations have any forethought @calman21

2019-12-06 06:37:59 UTC  

they do

2019-12-06 06:38:32 UTC  

corporations are run by people, and people aren't machines

2019-12-06 06:38:49 UTC  

You mean the automotive industry that automated away their assembly line?

2019-12-06 06:38:50 UTC  

You don't become a successful megacorp without taking the long view. That said, they are by no means immune to short-term impulsiveness.

2019-12-06 06:39:10 UTC  

people are the cogs in the corporate machine, they know their overall mission. create wealth

2019-12-06 06:39:12 UTC  

for good or ill

2019-12-06 06:39:18 UTC  

what about corporations that make millions doing immoral practices? Like Nestle and funding slavery in cocoa fields

2019-12-06 06:39:21 UTC  

New Coke was one example.

2019-12-06 06:39:46 UTC  

They are taking the long view, Tea. They're just being very very shitty about it.

2019-12-06 06:39:49 UTC  

We automated away several million manufacturing jobs

2019-12-06 06:39:50 UTC  

publicly owned and traded corps do not care about consequences

2019-12-06 06:39:58 UTC  

Thats part of WHY trump was elected

2019-12-06 06:40:11 UTC  

tbh generations don't care about consequences. "Won't affect me" is what I hear a lot of people state

2019-12-06 06:40:33 UTC  

"I won't be alive when it ruins the Earth"

2019-12-06 06:41:10 UTC  

I need to see more substantive proof that we automated our jobs away than andrew yang stating such, he is the only person I have seen who says that; it makes more sense to me that we have lost factory work to China because they have been undercutting our labor costs with their slave labor