Message from @Tiberius

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2019-12-06 06:39:58 UTC  

Thats part of WHY trump was elected

2019-12-06 06:40:11 UTC  

tbh generations don't care about consequences. "Won't affect me" is what I hear a lot of people state

2019-12-06 06:40:33 UTC  

"I won't be alive when it ruins the Earth"

2019-12-06 06:41:10 UTC  

I need to see more substantive proof that we automated our jobs away than andrew yang stating such, he is the only person I have seen who says that; it makes more sense to me that we have lost factory work to China because they have been undercutting our labor costs with their slave labor

2019-12-06 06:41:20 UTC  

yes, and he's done absolutely nothing to revive, say, steel jobs

2019-12-06 06:41:29 UTC  

automobile assembly line is very easy to research

2019-12-06 06:41:33 UTC  

YEs and computers eliminated millions of clerical jobs and the tractor eliminated millions of agriculture jobs. I am certain that the wheel eliminated basket-hauling jobs.....

2019-12-06 06:41:52 UTC  

also, what about the people that physically connected telephone connections? Tele-operators or whatever they were called

2019-12-06 06:42:18 UTC  

tech always replaces human workers, for better or for worse

2019-12-06 06:42:29 UTC  

Taking the long view doesn't mean one is taking responsibility for one's actions. It can just as easily apply to a very limited goal, like making as much cold, hard cash as possible over a long period of time.

2019-12-06 06:42:33 UTC  

@TeeTotaler you assume a lot about people who head corporations

2019-12-06 06:42:33 UTC  

telephone wire, holy fuck, that's going back aways

2019-12-06 06:42:55 UTC  

trump bad

2019-12-06 06:42:56 UTC  

it's just an example

2019-12-06 06:42:58 UTC  

give me money

2019-12-06 06:43:01 UTC  

Basically, the business model of the British East India Company.

2019-12-06 06:43:10 UTC  

there wasn't even a telephone connection from Berlin to Potsdam until after the first world war

2019-12-06 06:43:31 UTC  

And I think he has done something to bring back steel by de-regulating energy. It takes a fuckton of energy to run an industrial kiln. Lower energy costs make steel manufacture more viable.

2019-12-06 06:43:37 UTC  

and I assume more about publicly owned corps @calman21

2019-12-06 06:44:00 UTC  

There is no incentive to not automate low skill jobs

2019-12-06 06:44:05 UTC  

private owned corporations are far more moral and effective

2019-12-06 06:44:27 UTC  

except when low skill jobs want 15/hr and exceed the cost of automation

2019-12-06 06:44:47 UTC  

i don't know enough on the subject of private vs public corporations and their actions to make an argument against what u are saying

2019-12-06 06:45:14 UTC  

Reduced overhead
Reduced liability
Increased production capacity
Increased profit margins

2019-12-06 06:45:20 UTC  

The list goes on

2019-12-06 06:45:34 UTC  

The incentive to not automate away low skill jobs is the fact that the people who work at mcdonalds are the people who work low skill jobs

2019-12-06 06:45:37 UTC  

papa johns is a fairly good example. that corp had a lot of good benefits and treated employees well and did a lot of donations etc when it was privately owned

2019-12-06 06:45:46 UTC  

became shit when it went publicly owned

2019-12-06 06:45:52 UTC  

But sure machines increase the productivity of workers. Dirty little secret America has some of the most productive industrial labor on the planet. It is not complicated as to why. A man with a nail gun can do the work of 10 men with hammers.

2019-12-06 06:45:59 UTC  

That made no sense

2019-12-06 06:45:59 UTC  

I don't either, I'm basically allowing myself to be phased out of the conversation. I just need it made clear that an increase in net profit is the first priority of corporations. for good or ill, that's why we let them exist

2019-12-06 06:46:24 UTC  

mine? @Tiberius

2019-12-06 06:46:30 UTC  

The incentive to not automate jobs is because people work there?

2019-12-06 06:46:38 UTC  

Calman

2019-12-06 06:47:08 UTC  

Like all those people who worked on assembly lines?

2019-12-06 06:47:40 UTC  

honestly the only jobs with resistance from AI replacement would be ones that have something that AI isn't currently capable of doing. Things like creativity based skills

2019-12-06 06:48:15 UTC  

if nature can do it then it can be replicated

2019-12-06 06:48:19 UTC  

Pshaw. Build a robaot that can fix your sink.....

2019-12-06 06:48:32 UTC  

so its inevitable that AI would become very close to humans in every aspect

2019-12-06 06:48:37 UTC  

But not everyome can be successfully creatively skilled