Message from @Tiberius

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2019-12-06 06:42:56 UTC  

it's just an example

2019-12-06 06:42:58 UTC  

give me money

2019-12-06 06:43:01 UTC  

Basically, the business model of the British East India Company.

2019-12-06 06:43:10 UTC  

there wasn't even a telephone connection from Berlin to Potsdam until after the first world war

2019-12-06 06:43:31 UTC  

And I think he has done something to bring back steel by de-regulating energy. It takes a fuckton of energy to run an industrial kiln. Lower energy costs make steel manufacture more viable.

2019-12-06 06:43:37 UTC  

and I assume more about publicly owned corps @calman21

2019-12-06 06:44:00 UTC  

There is no incentive to not automate low skill jobs

2019-12-06 06:44:05 UTC  

private owned corporations are far more moral and effective

2019-12-06 06:44:27 UTC  

except when low skill jobs want 15/hr and exceed the cost of automation

2019-12-06 06:44:47 UTC  

i don't know enough on the subject of private vs public corporations and their actions to make an argument against what u are saying

2019-12-06 06:45:14 UTC  

Reduced overhead
Reduced liability
Increased production capacity
Increased profit margins

2019-12-06 06:45:20 UTC  

The list goes on

2019-12-06 06:45:34 UTC  

The incentive to not automate away low skill jobs is the fact that the people who work at mcdonalds are the people who work low skill jobs

2019-12-06 06:45:37 UTC  

papa johns is a fairly good example. that corp had a lot of good benefits and treated employees well and did a lot of donations etc when it was privately owned

2019-12-06 06:45:46 UTC  

became shit when it went publicly owned

2019-12-06 06:45:52 UTC  

But sure machines increase the productivity of workers. Dirty little secret America has some of the most productive industrial labor on the planet. It is not complicated as to why. A man with a nail gun can do the work of 10 men with hammers.

2019-12-06 06:45:59 UTC  

That made no sense

2019-12-06 06:45:59 UTC  

I don't either, I'm basically allowing myself to be phased out of the conversation. I just need it made clear that an increase in net profit is the first priority of corporations. for good or ill, that's why we let them exist

2019-12-06 06:46:24 UTC  

mine? @Tiberius

2019-12-06 06:46:30 UTC  

The incentive to not automate jobs is because people work there?

2019-12-06 06:46:38 UTC  

Calman

2019-12-06 06:47:08 UTC  

Like all those people who worked on assembly lines?

2019-12-06 06:47:40 UTC  

honestly the only jobs with resistance from AI replacement would be ones that have something that AI isn't currently capable of doing. Things like creativity based skills

2019-12-06 06:48:15 UTC  

if nature can do it then it can be replicated

2019-12-06 06:48:19 UTC  

Pshaw. Build a robaot that can fix your sink.....

2019-12-06 06:48:32 UTC  

so its inevitable that AI would become very close to humans in every aspect

2019-12-06 06:48:37 UTC  

But not everyome can be successfully creatively skilled

2019-12-06 06:48:39 UTC  

yes, if the corporations erase low skill labor jobs and replace them with machines, low skill labors will not acquire a wage with which they can spend on whatever, and, in many aspects of the economy, low skill labor's spending contribute to the profitablility of a corporation

2019-12-06 06:48:48 UTC  

Basic supply/demand

2019-12-06 06:49:33 UTC  

Rather build a robot that can fix your sink that costs less than a plumber. The 'creatives' will be replaced first.

2019-12-06 06:49:34 UTC  

but then by that logic corporations wouldn't lower wages, especially when the cost of living rises

2019-12-06 06:49:37 UTC  

but here we are

2019-12-06 06:50:18 UTC  

Robots lack the fine motor skills for plumbing

2019-12-06 06:50:19 UTC  

im not talking about low skill in just one sector, like assembly lines, if every low skill labor job is replaceable with machines all at once, that would leave low skill laborers without work, and leave corporations without that sector of the population to profit from

2019-12-06 06:50:29 UTC  

fine motor skills is becoming far easier to make

2019-12-06 06:50:32 UTC  

And compactness to work in tight spaces

2019-12-06 06:51:00 UTC  

Not if that's their goal

2019-12-06 06:51:03 UTC  

How low skill? You mean like journalists?

2019-12-06 06:51:07 UTC  

remember that the top professors and intellects in the 90s said a computer driving a car was a physical impossibility

2019-12-06 06:51:39 UTC  

Remember that 5 years ago they said that automated cars were only 2 years away?