^ Agreed. You should have an opt-out on social security.

The Private Wait Times are based on the Size of your Wallet

However, because the system is a national social program, it would destablize it completely.

Public Wait times are on Need

Is not wealth transfers from the young to the old a form of misrepresentation?

"Need"

Christ

NO

Also, when you say "private healthcare"

Some rich guy with Stomach Aches in the US is higher priority than someone with a Stage 4 Cancer in the American System

In a Universal System, the wait times regard Priority. Someone with Cancer or who just suffered a Heart Attack, of course, is higher priority than you, who might be in for a minor fever. The higher priority niggas get almost instantaneous care while those who are lower priority might have to wait a little longer.

Nothing exists in a vacuum

Healthcare is a service. You have price, quality, or quantity - and you only get to pick 2.

Which do you want?

*economics*

You can't get everything you want, there's only bad and worse.

You're referring to a system similar to the organ donor list - which has demonstrated fatal consequences.

I refuse to allow the govt - an agency that have demonstrated countless failures in basic financial management - to have oversight on the quality and availability of my healthcare.

The quality of services would plummet. 2 Millions private healthcare jobs lost. Suddenly the budget can't keep up with demand as it's not an established system.

There's a reason M4A is rejected by the majority of Americans. We do not need an American NHS.

It's same old, same old. Government subsidizes and alters the market to the point where conditions become insufferable and they offer a government solution which makes the problem worse.

Because *people will never understand economics*

guy ran off

guess we can start jerking each other off now

In socialized healthcare you get the worst of prices, quality and quantity

Zero competition and government oversight breeds nothing but incompetence, corruption and a never ending black hole of waste.

the doctors here try to push you out the door as soon as possible, they claim the same $$ from the government either way, they don't seem to have any real interest in the health of the patient

You must be in Australia

That is untrue

You're literally only looking at the NHS

There are other systems too

Such as the French/German System (regarded as the Best in the World) in which Private Health Care Companies still exist but the way you pay for said insurance is with Taxes

Multi/Single-Payer Systems are Objectively better than the Private System

You really think the Private Oligopoly Competes in the US? There's like 12 Health Care Companies and they're all in the same Big Club

As a result, Health Care costs in the US are the HIGHEST in the Entire World (let alone the Developed World)

There are some things that just should be off the Table from the Private Sector; ya wouldn't want to have Private Policemen or Firefighters, now would you?

"Help! My House is Burning Down!"
"That'll be $30,000"
"I c-can't afford that"
"Welp, pack up boys. There's nothing we can do ab it now"

i'm surprised that state run healthcare services in liberal countries run as well as they do considering there's usually a party who tries to undermine them whenever they get in government

@Death in June Because things like Universal Health Care are something everyone benefits off of; extremely popular services, to the people. Thus, if the Right Winged Party even tries touching the Health Care System, it's seen as Political Suicide

well sure but at the same time they try to undermine it indirectly

obviously they can't come out and say "we're gonna get rid of it" but they try to sabotage it to hurt its popularity