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2019-12-07 06:08:37 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Democrats will lose unless they nominate Sanders

2019-12-07 06:08:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

And that will never happen, under the Establishment's watch qq

2019-12-07 06:09:37 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Like the Dems have ONE Chance to save themselves

2019-12-07 06:09:48 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

And that's nominate the Populist

2019-12-07 06:10:19 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Bernie or Bust

2019-12-07 06:11:11 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Yep

2019-12-07 06:11:15 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The Genocide in Yemen

2019-12-07 06:11:36 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

All cuz Trump is too busy taking Saudi dick

2019-12-07 06:12:17 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Bc if he opposes the the Saudi Arabians, they can easily fuck up the Petrodollar, thus crippling the US Economy

2019-12-07 06:13:02 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

"The Booty Judge has a better shot than (objectively) he Most Popular Politician in the Country"

2019-12-07 06:14:32 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Bernie has not said a single thing on decriminalising illegal immigration

2019-12-07 06:14:46 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

In fact, for a Progressive, he's very strong on Borders

2019-12-07 06:17:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

@Mersenne It's Still Illegal. Turning Illegal Immigration from a Felony to a Civil offense still puts the Illegals in Jail; it just stops the family separation

2019-12-07 06:21:36 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

ICE should be abolished, lol

2019-12-07 06:21:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Customs and Border protection is all we need

2019-12-07 06:23:26 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

ICE is Unconstitutional; many courts have ruled that they have repeatedly broken the 4th (Surveillance), 5th (Due Process), 13th (Slavery), and 14th (Due Process Equality) Amendments of the United States Constitution

2019-12-07 06:23:43 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Hell, they were only created in 2003 by the Bush Administration too

2019-12-07 06:24:06 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They have absolutely no reason to exist and are already a mess of unconstitutional actions

2019-12-07 06:24:26 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Just let Customs and Border Protection take all the stuff, like they used to

2019-12-07 06:24:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

ICE is so unnecessary that the majority of it is made up of Private Militias and Mercenaries, anyways

2019-12-07 06:27:43 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The majority of people detained are done so without a fair trial and are forcefully detained (which is a situation just waiting to be abused, lol)

2019-12-07 06:28:56 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Yeah, I agree

2019-12-07 06:29:09 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Though I think we should go further with Immigration reform

2019-12-07 06:29:25 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

And I think the first thing to do is to Decriminalise All Drugs and Legalise Marijuana

2019-12-07 06:29:32 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

That will absolutely fuck up the Cartels

2019-12-07 06:29:36 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

And Big Pharma

2019-12-07 06:31:09 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I didn't say legalise; I said decriminalise, lol. There are some drugs that would reap havoc if legalised (like Fentanyl) which is why decriminalising would just turn it from a Criminal issue to a Health Issue

2019-12-07 06:32:31 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

People are gonna do drugs, regardless, so it's better to mediate the issue by giving them safe monitored areas where they can inject themselves; thus bringing overdoses to near 0 and will absolutely cripple the Cartels who currently profit off of them

2019-12-07 06:34:02 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

That too

2019-12-07 06:34:45 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The Cartels rn have a Monopoly. Which is why we should Legalise, Tax, and Regulate most Drugs

2019-12-07 06:34:53 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Decriminalise the rest

2019-12-07 06:37:31 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Well, only Bernie has been pushing for M4A; but it's actually ridiculously easy to argue for a Single/Multi-Payer System since we have examples of it being a benefit in every other Country (besides the UK tho the NHS used to be the Best Health Care System before Tony Blair and David Cameron raped it to death)

2019-12-07 06:39:26 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I feel like Warren fucked up by having a Public Option be her first priority before M4A.

2019-12-07 06:39:41 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Cuz ever since she mentioned that, she's been tanking in the polls

2019-12-07 06:40:03 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

And now the Booty Judge (Democrat's Marco Rubio) is rising up for some reason

2019-12-07 06:41:00 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Really, anyone other than Bernie (and maybe Warren) will lose to Trump

2019-12-07 06:42:04 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The Booty Judge is very establishment. He's really cringey, actually. Like he acts like a politician from the 1990s.

2019-12-07 06:42:42 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I feel like him debating Trump would be full of platitudes and Clichรฉs; Trump would probably roast the shit out of him

2019-12-07 06:44:19 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Eh, Biden is Tanking rn

2019-12-07 06:44:36 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Mainly due to his senility

2019-12-07 06:45:07 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Impeachment was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen the dems make tbbh

2019-12-07 06:45:16 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Bc all it will do is help Trump

2019-12-07 06:45:46 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Oh I can just see the Headlines already once the Impeachment dies in the Senate

2019-12-07 06:45:57 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

"Teflon Don Evades Impeachment"

2019-12-07 06:46:24 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Trump's approval rating soaring through the roof like with Teflon Bill when he evaded Impeachment

2019-12-07 06:46:53 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

True dat

2019-12-07 06:47:07 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Especially since the Impeachment is on Trump investigating Biden for being Corrupt

2019-12-07 06:47:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

So all that will happen is Joe Biden will be exposed for being corrupt

2019-12-07 06:49:10 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

True dat

2019-12-07 06:50:49 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

In the end, all this Election is, really, is "Who can Win the Rust Belt?"

2019-12-07 06:51:06 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

All the candidates gotta do is hold onto their 2016 Seats and win the Rust Belt

2019-12-07 06:52:30 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

That's where Bernie comes in because that guy is EXTREMELY Popular in the Rust Belt, lol (Ik first hand too cuz I live there). That area was crippled by Bill Clinton with NAFTA and Trump Campaigned on getting people their Jobs back (while Hillary was Bill's Husband).

2019-12-07 06:53:02 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Now Trump has done none of that

2019-12-07 06:53:20 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

But people here hate the Dems more bc at least Trump has the rhetoric of a Populist

2019-12-07 06:53:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

But that's where Bernie comes in because to most ppl here, he's a genuine populist

2019-12-07 06:54:14 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

People in the Rust Belt have more confidence in someone like Bernie than Trump

2019-12-07 06:54:24 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Hence why I say that it really is Bernie or Bust

2019-12-07 06:54:58 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Liz Warren is only slightly more popular than Trump here (she might barely beat him)

2019-12-07 06:55:08 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

But Bernie would wipe the floor with the Rust Belt

2019-12-07 06:56:30 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Everyone else, including the Booty Judge, is actually unpopular here since they just seem Establishment and representing the "Status Quo"

2019-12-07 06:58:22 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

When you really get down to it, the 2020 Election will be a referendum on "Populism Vs. Establishment"

2019-12-07 06:59:23 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

One thing that I've noticed is that, the major Reforms Bernie, in particular, pushes are actually the Economic Policy of the Golden Age of Capitalism (1950s). An Economy Heavily Regulated and Taxed amongst Large Corporations and the Rich, but extremely unregulated and very low taxes on your average person

2019-12-07 07:01:09 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Like IIRC, the Lower Class paid 5% in Taxes, the Middle Class paid 10%, the Upper Middle Class and Lower High Class paid 15%, and the Upper High Class paid 70% of the Taxes

2019-12-07 07:02:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I mean, deregulating average people would be pretty ideal

2019-12-07 07:03:25 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The Rich, atm, pay less in taxes than your average Joe, lol

2019-12-07 07:03:33 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Mainly bc of Capital Gains

2019-12-07 07:05:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Bernie used to call himself a "Civil Libertarian" for a long time, so it makes sense for why he'd want to adopt such a policy

2019-12-07 07:06:27 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Make life more free for your average person, trickling up the economy, at the same time

2019-12-07 07:09:21 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Yep

2019-12-07 07:09:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Ye

2019-12-07 07:10:43 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

It is pretty funny tho. The Republicans, since Reagan, have been working to Return to the 1920s (a time notorious for corruption, starting of in a huge boom and ending in a huge bust), while Bernie wants a return to the 1950s (the most prosperous time in Human History)

2019-12-07 07:12:01 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Democrats and Republicans are virtually the same Party Atm; just appealing to different Demographics

2019-12-07 07:12:18 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Democrats are Centrist Republicans, basically

2019-12-07 07:12:39 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

That is the essence of the Two Party System in most countries

2019-12-07 07:13:09 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Correction: The Establishment Democrats and the General Republican Party

2019-12-07 07:14:13 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Rn the Dems are like the Old Whig Party. They have no real identity and are just allied on a hatred for the other Party's Leader

2019-12-07 07:16:22 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Back in the 1830s, the Dems elected a guy named Andrew Jackson (who was a complete Lunatic). He was such a controversial President that a new Party was formed called the "Whig Party", which was a party full of people who were ideologically all over the place but united by their hatred for Andrew Jackson (they actually managed to get 4 presidents elected too)

2019-12-07 07:17:35 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

*Many Whig members eventually branched off to form a new Party called the "Free Soil Party" (a One-Issue party on the topic of Abolitionism), which eventually became the Republican Party, electing their own President named Abraham Lincoln in 1860*

2019-12-07 07:19:14 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Now, the Dems are basically like the Old Whigs rn. They have no ideology. They have people all over the place; many centrist, conservative, libertarian, progressive, neo-con, and neo-lib Demograts

2019-12-07 07:19:36 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They're only allied on "Orange Man Bad"

2019-12-07 07:19:46 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Just like the Old Whig Party, lol

2019-12-07 07:20:07 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Yeah

2019-12-07 07:20:47 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I can see Bernie winning and Warren barely winning

2019-12-07 07:20:58 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

It's just a game of who can win the Rust Belt

2019-12-07 07:21:10 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

And Bernie has that in the Bag but Warren...not so much

2019-12-07 07:21:50 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Ye

2019-12-07 07:22:40 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Funny enough, the US had a Progressive Party once

2019-12-07 07:22:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Made by the Father of Progressivism, himself, Teddy Roosevelt

2019-12-07 07:23:15 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

It was actually the most successful Third Party in US History

2019-12-07 07:24:02 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Unfortunately, he split the Vote with Taft and gave Woodrow Wilson a Landslide Victory

2019-12-07 07:28:39 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

The Electoral College was always meant to be Temporary

2019-12-07 07:28:54 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

In Fact, the Founders intended it to be replaced with Direct Democracy

2019-12-07 07:29:22 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

But the EC Favoured Land Owners and no way Land Owners were gonna share the vote with the Peasants

2019-12-07 07:29:40 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They hated Direct Democracy as a System of Gov't

2019-12-07 07:29:44 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Not as a Voting Method

2019-12-07 07:30:03 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

We're talking about electing a person

2019-12-07 07:30:12 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Not running a country

2019-12-07 07:30:25 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

You look at mayors and district congressmen and senators

2019-12-07 07:30:33 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

They're voted in with Direct Democracy

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