It doesn't matter whether or not the founders favored it, the question is *is it a good idea*?

I'm too afraid of the average person and their lack of knowledge to trust them.

Not that checks on power matter over time, as we have seen, I would think someone with unilateral military power would be the person you'd least want elected through direct election.

What do you think about the idea that only net taxpayers should be allowed to vote?

"Even if morally correct, I disavow any system that infringes on Constitutional Rights." That's a weird position. Pragmatism?

Not a bad idea. Breaks the electoral college into districts instead of states, am I reading that correctly?

It would increase representation which is good.

I don't really care about what is or is not currently law, just what works.

If you're not paying taxes, you're not being taxed without representation.

It eliminates votes that press for more entitlement spending.

AKA those with skin in the game get to vote.

Yes, work and don't take welfare.

Impressive, truly.

The theory that you should have a welfare state to appease the lower 30 percent will work until it doesn't.

Have you looked at the US debt and deficit lately?

It's great if you can make such a system work, but it will collapse if not reined in.

In one way or another.

But the voters will not allow the gibs trough to be stopped until the system breaks.

This is the problem.

Trump is a stop gap for now

@The Supreme Xtream Welfare is medicaid, medicare, social security, etc

For the sake of argument, we can give it a definition.

We could talk about social security alone

And the point could be made

*Semantics*

You want to talk about taxation without representation, the social security example is a good one. Paying into a system that will go broke that you have no part in.

Is not wealth transfers from the young to the old a form of misrepresentation?

Also, when you say "private healthcare"

Nothing exists in a vacuum

*economics*

You can't get everything you want, there's only bad and worse.

It's same old, same old. Government subsidizes and alters the market to the point where conditions become insufferable and they offer a government solution which makes the problem worse.

Because *people will never understand economics*

guy ran off

guess we can start jerking each other off now

heh "filling" a "void"

heh

top or bottom?

Alright, he's a Bop

this guys' cool man, he's a bop

Yes I think doing anything well means not being pulled in different directions by competing desires.

Perversions or distractions pull us away from any particular goal that seems pretty straightforward.

Sexual desire is a particularly strong bioenergetic thing

It would depend on what kind of magic you were trying to do I guess

@Shane super cool shane keep up the good work stay stable

look it up

hue hue hue

He's a Top epicurus, no

stop projecting

anyway, yeah shane I notice with my porn addictions the longer I went without it and worked on my spirutul work I was more stable in my relationships

YES

we just love us some gays

There is something to desire and attraction and energy and getting shit done.

well

don't give a fuck

learn to not take the bait

yeah I feel ya

fuck the entropy is strong

decay laziness and the earthly modes

they come upon me

yiss

hehehehehehehehohohoho

I love the old "I don't really care, heh, I'm just playin' dawg"

I love when a discussion gets so meta and dumb the defensive ploys no longer make sense

In the closet Jew's anus

You must venture into the crystal fields

if I can if I can by Bob's grace

I want to go to bed but this is just too much popcorn

what can do even?

what even go so far as to do look more like

Put your arms up at a 90 degree angle

don't move

work on your meditation

do your energy work

practice moving into trance

@Epicurus "mind awake, body asleep"

@Epicurus sitting up is harder but laying down does make you fall asleep

@Epicurus However trying it in the morning helps because you've already slept

It's just hard to remember

Right after you wake up you're already in that liminal state

Imma let you finish but

beyonce really should have won the

Yeah

This was fun

I love the internet

So much

Sleep time now, you are a top you just proved it

Dumb bullshit, that's how

He's a threat to their power and they want him gone. Nuff said

He's a "loose cannon"

We "sort of" have a democracy but the window for reform is shrinking.

The neoreaction "Cathedral" diagram better explains what we *do* have.

It's a system of bureaucracies and corrupt organizations. Corporations belong under that umbrella.

Yeah I don't really care either, because statues are dumb. Read a book.

murder

book burners belong in shallow graves

You might have too many books.

oh well then why the heck

did you not just take them with you

"it's a long story..."