If you can build a wind farm and sell that electricity, then no

You can sell it to the government

Whoever you want since capitalism is the system

Yeah, although realistically you'd want to sell to the government or you'd have allot of surplus electricity unless you invested enough in storage

Or, sell it to another, larger private utility company

Possibly

A big issue I see here is that a lot of people are a bit fuzzy about what a socialist system is. This is in part due to propaganda by socialists who say YOU ALREADY HAVE SOCIALISM, JUST THROW MORE (other people's) MONEY AT IT.

No, a fire department is not socialist when you can own your own.

Putting price caps on products and services won't work where there is private ownership of those things.

Fire departments are a social institution. But they're not socialist

Right

socialism is couched in the idea of central planning. local fire departments run locally is the opposite of central planning.

Oh yeah, they're about as decentralized as you can get

Right. They may be regulated, but that doesn't make them socialist.

People like Bernie point at some European countries and says "see, SOCIALISM works" No, those are capitalist countries where they tax the fuck out of people and subsidize services.

*And look where that's got them. Cost of living is high beyond belief*

In those countries, you can see a private doctor or surgeon.

After paying 50% income tax and VAT on top of that

This fuzziness about what socialism is is why so many Americans are in favor of it.

VAT is bullshit, it only kind of makes sense in a duty free where it's technically becoming an import/export

To be fair most Americans are pretty stupid

And selfish

Most of us voted Trump

Don't forget the other key aspects of those European Countries: Populations and Homogeny

We are raised that way. Capitalism has some downsides.

Alright lemme rephrase that, most that are in favor of socialism are stupid and selfish

Much more accurate

Well yeah, they want to take other people's stuff.

Like this Warren horseshit about taxing someone's assets

I used to not like Trump, though as seeing the literal effects he's been causing to the establishment I'm in favor of him despite how crude he can be

Socialism in a nutshell
"I want that, this is mine now"

^^^

Why not kick in their front door and start taking stuff

It'd be more honest

Cause they run giant corps that bank off their image

@randomNPCno3. It leads to that, yes.

So they need to look good while being corrupt shitholes

A socialist health Care system like Bernie envisions it is that no one is favored. If you are waiting in line for a heart operation, you stay in line. No fair going to a private surgeon and saving your life. THATS what socialism is about, not really just about free shit. Free shit is the lure.

A system that'll also bankrupt the country not the mention

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295826901132509186/652900038103793704/9wsm.jpg

right @Aldomuz warren is flat out lying about how she can fund her medicare for all program. She says she'll tax the billionaires and corporations only. Horseshit. Her plan will cast at least 5 trillion a year. the combined wealth of all USA billionaires is 3.6 trillion. Even if she seized every asset they had she couldn't fund her plan for a year (plus, millions would not have jobs that those billionaires provide). Her plan to tax the fuck out of corporations is stupid because they'll just add in those taxes as COST and all products and services will go up in price.