Message from @SuperHeroDeluxe

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2019-12-07 15:07:10 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH9gwYMGDr4 Timcast: "Socialists and Far Leftists OUTRAGED After I Called Them Lazy And Stupid, Too Bad I'M RIGHT"

2019-12-07 15:24:34 UTC  

When major industries are owned and controlled by the state then you know socialism is in place. That's kind of how it works.

2019-12-07 15:25:29 UTC  

Socialism isn't just taxing people and spreading money around.

2019-12-07 15:25:38 UTC  

Are you including natural Monopolies like utilities?

2019-12-07 15:26:06 UTC  

If no competition is allowed, yes

2019-12-07 15:26:15 UTC  

Because those are usually state owned

2019-12-07 15:26:54 UTC  

If you can build a wind farm and sell that electricity, then no

2019-12-07 15:27:25 UTC  

You can sell it to the government

2019-12-07 15:27:55 UTC  

Whoever you want since capitalism is the system

2019-12-07 15:29:06 UTC  

Yeah, although realistically you'd want to sell to the government or you'd have allot of surplus electricity unless you invested enough in storage

2019-12-07 15:30:29 UTC  

Or, sell it to another, larger private utility company

2019-12-07 15:31:08 UTC  

Possibly

2019-12-07 15:33:34 UTC  

A big issue I see here is that a lot of people are a bit fuzzy about what a socialist system is. This is in part due to propaganda by socialists who say YOU ALREADY HAVE SOCIALISM, JUST THROW MORE (other people's) MONEY AT IT.

2019-12-07 15:36:04 UTC  

No, a fire department is not socialist when you can own your own.

2019-12-07 15:37:23 UTC  

Putting price caps on products and services won't work where there is private ownership of those things.

2019-12-07 15:37:57 UTC  

Fire departments are a social institution. But they're not socialist

2019-12-07 15:38:05 UTC  

Right

2019-12-07 15:38:08 UTC  

socialism is couched in the idea of central planning. local fire departments run locally is the opposite of central planning.

2019-12-07 15:38:35 UTC  

Oh yeah, they're about as decentralized as you can get

2019-12-07 15:38:58 UTC  

Right. They may be regulated, but that doesn't make them socialist.

2019-12-07 15:40:55 UTC  

People like Bernie point at some European countries and says "see, SOCIALISM works" No, those are capitalist countries where they tax the fuck out of people and subsidize services.

2019-12-07 15:41:38 UTC  

*And look where that's got them. Cost of living is high beyond belief*

2019-12-07 15:42:05 UTC  

In those countries, you can see a private doctor or surgeon.

2019-12-07 15:42:52 UTC  

After paying 50% income tax and VAT on top of that

2019-12-07 15:43:43 UTC  

This fuzziness about what socialism is is why so many Americans are in favor of it.

2019-12-07 15:43:44 UTC  

VAT is bullshit, it only kind of makes sense in a duty free where it's technically becoming an import/export

2019-12-07 15:44:04 UTC  

To be fair most Americans are pretty stupid

2019-12-07 15:44:12 UTC  

And selfish

2019-12-07 15:44:29 UTC  

Most of us voted Trump

2019-12-07 15:44:33 UTC  

Don't forget the other key aspects of those European Countries: Populations and Homogeny

2019-12-07 15:44:43 UTC  

We are raised that way. Capitalism has some downsides.

2019-12-07 15:45:21 UTC  

Alright lemme rephrase that, most that are in favor of socialism are stupid and selfish

2019-12-07 15:45:40 UTC  

Much more accurate

2019-12-07 15:45:47 UTC  

Well yeah, they want to take other people's stuff.

2019-12-07 15:46:25 UTC  

Like this Warren horseshit about taxing someone's assets

2019-12-07 15:46:33 UTC  

I used to not like Trump, though as seeing the literal effects he's been causing to the establishment I'm in favor of him despite how crude he can be

2019-12-07 15:46:49 UTC  

Socialism in a nutshell
"I want that, this is mine now"

2019-12-07 15:46:54 UTC  

^^^

2019-12-07 15:46:58 UTC  

Why not kick in their front door and start taking stuff

2019-12-07 15:47:08 UTC  

It'd be more honest