Message from @Troye

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2019-12-19 05:25:20 UTC  

Going to write it out i guess

2019-12-19 05:25:47 UTC  

Look, you can make a balanced argument for promoting responsible military spending. Hell, you can advocate for auditing and improving the provision of taxpayer money to programs. But to claim it's wasted is what tends to piss people off on the topic.

2019-12-19 05:26:26 UTC  

Its the same thing

2019-12-19 05:26:26 UTC  

@Mersenne Any recommindations for extracting text from jpeg?

2019-12-19 05:26:32 UTC  

Our military budget is ten times Russia's and we wonder if we should spend more

2019-12-19 05:26:33 UTC  

Adobe OCR

2019-12-19 05:26:37 UTC  

free?

2019-12-19 05:26:39 UTC  

Just DM and I'll knock it out.

2019-12-19 05:26:43 UTC  

Thanks

2019-12-19 05:26:50 UTC  

R&d is a majority of most military budgets, and the tech developments from the military tend to pay back into the economy

2019-12-19 05:27:19 UTC  

I have little knowledge in this regard but it seems pretty excessive to be spending more than the next ten countries combined

2019-12-19 05:27:34 UTC  

No, 55% of the budget is not going into the military

2019-12-19 05:27:54 UTC  

It's at most 20% for the entire department of security

2019-12-19 05:28:13 UTC  

Still large but not *over half*

2019-12-19 05:28:16 UTC  

I think most of the budget is entitlements at this point

2019-12-19 05:28:22 UTC  

20% sounds accurate

2019-12-19 05:28:32 UTC  

15-20%

2019-12-19 05:28:41 UTC  

Allot of people conflate the entire executive branch and the military, could that be the confusion in the numbers?

2019-12-19 05:28:49 UTC  

oh and interest on the debt is a big chunk

2019-12-19 05:29:14 UTC  

It's like 10% interest payments

2019-12-19 05:29:42 UTC  

I'll double check

2019-12-19 05:29:56 UTC  

so 10% of our tax money is just gone immediately

2019-12-19 05:30:07 UTC  

Military is underfunded tbh.

2019-12-19 05:30:18 UTC  

As long as we do the shit we do.

2019-12-19 05:30:21 UTC  

I think the military should just consolidate

2019-12-19 05:30:33 UTC  

Underfunded because too thinly spread

2019-12-19 05:30:53 UTC  

We got bases all over the world while our hardware at home is falling apart

2019-12-19 05:30:53 UTC  

consolidate in what way?

2019-12-19 05:30:57 UTC  

I see

2019-12-19 05:31:15 UTC  

Close some bases overseas, stop interventions, etc

2019-12-19 05:31:29 UTC  

He fired McArthur
He was just trying to save his skin for letting the commies get North Korea because of him
So he blamed the military for starting the war.
So it couldn't be his fault.
He wasn't controlling anything.
That was his argument.
That boogeyman got even more ground in the Vietnam War with hippies.
"Vietnam was started for petty capitalistic gains" they said
They gathered support and we lost Vietnam War just one year before we could have clearly won
That is a fact btw
We would have won.
The Tet Offensive was the last straw to the hippies. (mind you the offensive failed in most regards but it was well coordinated)
The true objective of the Tet Offensive was to make it look like the US couldn't ever win because of 6 different attacks going on at one time.
The cold war denuclearization movement (by communists and hippies" also used the military industrial complex argument to make the US lose the cold war.
Tried at least
Now the term means "that all military action is bad because of those damn arms companies and big oil."
So no I don't have a problem with it.

2019-12-19 05:31:38 UTC  

whatever can be done that doesn't immediately plunge the world into ww3

2019-12-19 05:31:39 UTC  

That was what i was trying to post

2019-12-19 05:32:08 UTC  

Ah but stopping interventionism means you'll let Russia take over places, which makes you a traitor<:smugon:512048583806025739>

2019-12-19 05:32:23 UTC  

I was talking about Eisenhower fuck and his ""military industrial complex"

2019-12-19 05:32:26 UTC  

Fuck russia

2019-12-19 05:32:35 UTC  

Its irrelevant

2019-12-19 05:32:36 UTC  

oh no, what if Russia starts spending their own money policing areas we used to have to deal with

2019-12-19 05:32:39 UTC  

Boogeyman Russia

2019-12-19 05:32:41 UTC  

China is the real enemy

2019-12-19 05:32:41 UTC  

the horror