Message from @dizzy
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consolidate in what way?
I see
Close some bases overseas, stop interventions, etc
He fired McArthur
He was just trying to save his skin for letting the commies get North Korea because of him
So he blamed the military for starting the war.
So it couldn't be his fault.
He wasn't controlling anything.
That was his argument.
That boogeyman got even more ground in the Vietnam War with hippies.
"Vietnam was started for petty capitalistic gains" they said
They gathered support and we lost Vietnam War just one year before we could have clearly won
That is a fact btw
We would have won.
The Tet Offensive was the last straw to the hippies. (mind you the offensive failed in most regards but it was well coordinated)
The true objective of the Tet Offensive was to make it look like the US couldn't ever win because of 6 different attacks going on at one time.
The cold war denuclearization movement (by communists and hippies" also used the military industrial complex argument to make the US lose the cold war.
Tried at least
Now the term means "that all military action is bad because of those damn arms companies and big oil."
So no I don't have a problem with it.
whatever can be done that doesn't immediately plunge the world into ww3
That was what i was trying to post
Ah but stopping interventionism means you'll let Russia take over places, which makes you a traitor<:smugon:512048583806025739>
I was talking about Eisenhower fuck and his ""military industrial complex"
Fuck russia
Its irrelevant
oh no, what if Russia starts spending their own money policing areas we used to have to deal with
Boogeyman Russia
China is the real enemy
the horror
What does Russia have to do with us? Unless it's a treatied Ally I don't see any reason to care what Russia is doing
same
Not my country
Who is arguing against that in here?@randomNPCno3
@Troye - I'll concede that the military bolsters an immense budget that demands more auditing to ensure funding is allocated responsibly to necessary programs. There's alot of Fraud, Waste, and Abuse that absolutely should be held to account. However, it's a separate argument. It's better to highlight the budgetary cuts and shortfalls to programs that require funding rather than pointing a finger at the military industrial complex.
The hypothetical person that would claim we're traitors
Fucking auditing by people who dont know what the military needs. ffs
I would rather buy oil from the Russians if we have to buy it at all
Yeah no
Don't know what you're getting at
Saudi's crude output is considerably higher than Russia's - we've also been trade partners with em since before the Cold War.
China is definitely a bigger problem than Russia. They're spreading all over the world
@Louis - Internal auditing - more from entities that understand the budget such as the IG
How the fuck would that work?
Oh you dont need that ammo right now
Saudi keeps its position at the top because of us knocking their rivals out of the game
You need a missle right now
but only one
Same way it normally does. Having a designated entity review the fiscal year budget allocations and determine which areas are irresponsibly spending to maintain their annual quota.
Thats called congress
Or it would be
So fail
Nah, this is more practical application. Alot of military orgs have departments that are provided with an annual budget. That org or unit will furiously purchase bullshit before the fiscal year close-out to ensure they receive the same quantity the following year.
Point is - you can absolutely increase internal auditing to ensure a healthy budget is being promoted
Having an audit every year would mean less research into expiremental tech and less stuff altogether