but of course you won't hear too much about the threat china poses cause of their $$$

to my understanding the only reason Russia is on the world stage is cuz they have nukes and they are bigger then most of europe.
they really are not in the USs weight class.

@Troye And this is where I often encounter an argument of hypocrisy. Take Trump on pulling troops from Syria. Some proclaimed this as a necessary action to conserve funding and prevent the loss of American life. Others vehemently criticize the president for creating a vaccum rather than embarking on an endless occupation similar to Afghanistan.

All i have to say about the russia-sino relationship is that they use different standard ammunition

That alone shows that there is strain

And not as much cooperation as you might think

Solid point. Always figured govt's were incompatible, never consider the armaments perspective.

if russia didnt have nukes they wouldn't register as any more than a minor adversary

well

@Cobra Commander pretty much

Generals openly admitted that we wasted billions trying to mold Afganistan into what we wanted it to be without any real direction on doing so

maybe thats *a little* unfair but yeah

@Mersenne I agree troops should be taken out of Syria

I do as well

But not because of your reasons

We should stay in Afghanistan though

It is getting better there

This is why I applaud the president on scaling back the military aide blindly afforded to other countries. Many nations, particularly those in the EU, frequently receive millions in military surplus spending, yet fail to provide the occupational security necessary in 3rd world areas such as the middle east.

Also fuck the un

Just needed to say that

didnt do shit in bush wars

Bush wars as in african wars

I lost respect for the UN when then announced Saudi Arabia as a leader in the women's rights movement.

I hated the un way before that

wait they

Yup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War

actually said *saudi arabia*

Un couldnt do shit

Ever since then i hated them

They afforded women the right to drive - ergo leaders in the women's rights movement.

also bosnian wars

Ignoring current laws that allow women to be stoned to death for *perceived infidelity*

Since 2001 at least 980 billion has been spent on attempting to reform Afghanistan. Thousands of US soldiers have died for a regime change war that barely accomplished anything over 18 years. I would argue its created more terrorism and hate for the US mire tgan anything else

huge fuck up of the UN

> @Troye > thousands

Worthy sacrifice. I will remember them.

Never forget

Al queda is in talks with us constantly rn

As of July 7, 2018, there have been 2,372 U.S. military deaths in the War in Afghanistan.

Again worthy sacrifices