Message from @UnScottable
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and the dems actually incentivize this behavior with welfare and etc
I see both sides on immigration. On the one hand open borders are a disaster and can not be allowed. And if the people coming in are going to have bad values we don't want an increase of people like that. On the other hand the US was built entirely on immigrants, many "illegal". And I support people trying to make a better life for themselves. Most of the people coming in work harder than a lot of legal citizens. Its tough because neither option is good
no it wasnt built entirely on immigrants
not entirely, but a fuck ton of labour came over in the steamship era
I don't support illegal immigration btw
chinese, irish, italian, mexican
canadians
our ancestors came here and conquered this land in a bloody war. conflict. and since the beginning of our country until 1965 we had very strict immigration requirements
in many cases we even bought land from the natives
erm, no that wasn't really it either
like the island of Manhattan
most of that was done by small pox
and that was largely an apathetic accident
The only people in the US who aren't immigrants or recently decended from them are native Americans
we still won a war, more or less. there may have been an unintended advantage due to them lacking our immune systems
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we won a war... against the English
then much later there was the homestead act and manifest destiney
30% of the settlers died in our conflicts with the natives
Andrew Jackson and whatnot
but we were already a nation long before that
is my point
yea i know that,
thats why im saying its like really like that cliche of "we are all immigrants"
90+% of the natives died
because there is a big difference in the people who came to america back then. and those who come today
those who come today dont even speak the same language we do. and have no ancestral ties to the land.
which we, at this point do.
through shit that we fought for
even discounting the descendants of the colonists, over 200 years that still a fuck ton of mexicans, canadians, chinese, hawaiians, Irish, and so on
is what im getting at
not really.
This nation has existed for 250 years. Its only been around 150 years or so when most people weren't direct immigrants
look at the demographic make up of america before 1965
That's a short amount of time as far as nations go
the hard seller act of 1965 radically changed the immigration laws and consequentially the make up of our country. whereas before the immigration from ireland and italy was quite different then the immigration from mexico today
they integrated far far easier and we took in amount that we could handle
strategically
after rampant ethnic friction with the Irish went away
yea and that happened a lot easier due to the amnt we took in being controlled