Message from @UnScottable

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2019-12-19 07:24:17 UTC  

not entirely, but a fuck ton of labour came over in the steamship era

2019-12-19 07:24:18 UTC  

I don't support illegal immigration btw

2019-12-19 07:24:32 UTC  

chinese, irish, italian, mexican

2019-12-19 07:24:42 UTC  

canadians

2019-12-19 07:24:42 UTC  

our ancestors came here and conquered this land in a bloody war. conflict. and since the beginning of our country until 1965 we had very strict immigration requirements

2019-12-19 07:24:59 UTC  

in many cases we even bought land from the natives

2019-12-19 07:25:02 UTC  

erm, no that wasn't really it either

2019-12-19 07:25:06 UTC  

like the island of Manhattan

2019-12-19 07:25:11 UTC  

most of that was done by small pox

2019-12-19 07:25:18 UTC  

and that was largely an apathetic accident

2019-12-19 07:25:20 UTC  

The only people in the US who aren't immigrants or recently decended from them are native Americans

2019-12-19 07:25:52 UTC  

we still won a war, more or less. there may have been an unintended advantage due to them lacking our immune systems

2019-12-19 07:26:07 UTC  

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2019-12-19 07:26:08 UTC  

we won a war... against the English

2019-12-19 07:26:25 UTC  

then much later there was the homestead act and manifest destiney

2019-12-19 07:26:30 UTC  

30% of the settlers died in our conflicts with the natives

2019-12-19 07:26:38 UTC  

Andrew Jackson and whatnot

2019-12-19 07:26:44 UTC  

so i mean there was definitely battles

2019-12-19 07:26:46 UTC  

but we were already a nation long before that

2019-12-19 07:26:53 UTC  

is my point

2019-12-19 07:26:55 UTC  

yea i know that,

2019-12-19 07:27:12 UTC  

thats why im saying its like really like that cliche of "we are all immigrants"

2019-12-19 07:27:16 UTC  

90+% of the natives died

2019-12-19 07:27:26 UTC  

because there is a big difference in the people who came to america back then. and those who come today

2019-12-19 07:27:49 UTC  

those who come today dont even speak the same language we do. and have no ancestral ties to the land.

2019-12-19 07:27:56 UTC  

which we, at this point do.

2019-12-19 07:28:04 UTC  

through shit that we fought for

2019-12-19 07:28:13 UTC  

even discounting the descendants of the colonists, over 200 years that still a fuck ton of mexicans, canadians, chinese, hawaiians, Irish, and so on

2019-12-19 07:28:18 UTC  

is what im getting at

2019-12-19 07:28:26 UTC  

not really.

2019-12-19 07:28:31 UTC  

This nation has existed for 250 years. Its only been around 150 years or so when most people weren't direct immigrants

2019-12-19 07:28:36 UTC  

look at the demographic make up of america before 1965

2019-12-19 07:29:48 UTC  

That's a short amount of time as far as nations go

2019-12-19 07:29:52 UTC  

the hard seller act of 1965 radically changed the immigration laws and consequentially the make up of our country. whereas before the immigration from ireland and italy was quite different then the immigration from mexico today

2019-12-19 07:30:07 UTC  

they integrated far far easier and we took in amount that we could handle

2019-12-19 07:30:10 UTC  

strategically

2019-12-19 07:30:29 UTC  

after rampant ethnic friction with the Irish went away

2019-12-19 07:30:50 UTC  

yea and that happened a lot easier due to the amnt we took in being controlled

2019-12-19 07:30:57 UTC  

though that was a mix of ethnic and religious confrontation, with with protestant vs catholic and whatnot

2019-12-19 07:31:11 UTC  

now its like 2 million+ immigrants a year

2019-12-19 07:31:38 UTC  

but then Irish started fighting irish, fucks sake