Message from @Divinity

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2020-01-05 22:41:11 UTC  

How far are you willing to bend that mutual trust before you go back to a straight rod.

2020-01-05 22:42:56 UTC  

It's the complications of peace over time that they change the goal lines to sought their ideal world view, but how long till man breaks and goes back to his old ways?

2020-01-05 22:43:33 UTC  

"old ways"

2020-01-05 22:43:43 UTC  

You mean natural ways.

2020-01-05 22:44:07 UTC  

What ever was "natural" to people of the time.

2020-01-05 22:44:20 UTC  

but as they say history repeats itself

2020-01-05 22:45:43 UTC  
2020-01-05 22:45:45 UTC  

<:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

2020-01-06 00:45:45 UTC  

I think Hollywood requires a "Day of the Rope" bunch of traitorus nonces.

2020-01-06 00:51:21 UTC  

Is that A Mother Fucking Chowder reference?

2020-01-06 01:03:53 UTC  

Smh, people in my State are shitting their pants and sobbing begging is not to go to war

2020-01-06 01:04:03 UTC  

People just don’t understand

2020-01-06 01:05:53 UTC  

Don't those retards realise the draft was ended in 1973?

2020-01-06 01:07:59 UTC  

No they don't, that requires actually learning about our history

2020-01-06 01:13:34 UTC  

Dems control the house and would have to pass laws to allow drafting to be enacted, but they rely on younger voters more so that won't happen

2020-01-06 01:26:58 UTC  

“This ethnically homogeneous Scandinavian nation with 3% of the US population has *x* and the US doesn’t because Republicans Racist”
-Occupy Democrats

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/12/5/sweden_vs_united_states_social_welfare?fbclid=IwAR2zdC_rsJYTdlntPYgeSa8cLWSsjBT_gNfqxIroPpUIktOKYAenV4s9JT4

2020-01-06 01:55:41 UTC  

don't they also have much higher taxes?

2020-01-06 02:03:28 UTC  

<:sarGOY:462286263622303754>

2020-01-06 02:13:48 UTC  

look at the NHS

2020-01-06 02:13:55 UTC  

it was once like that

2020-01-06 02:13:59 UTC  

now its shite

2020-01-06 02:24:33 UTC  

ugh i honestly hardly ever even engage with people who seriously say that the US should have free healthcare

2020-01-06 02:24:41 UTC  

because it clearly comes from a place of ignorance.

2020-01-06 02:24:51 UTC  

and i am losing patience for such things

2020-01-06 02:29:18 UTC  

I just want cheaper healthcare, free market seems to do this best, less power to the insurance companies is something I'd like

2020-01-06 02:37:10 UTC  

Insurance companies aren't the evil that they're made out to be.

2020-01-06 02:38:01 UTC  

It's in their interest to keep the medical people competing to deliver the best for the lowest costs

2020-01-06 02:40:44 UTC  

Sure, they may want to deny claims, but in the end they have to out compete other insurance companies so the worst companies go out of business if they don't do better

2020-01-06 02:46:25 UTC  

Except that insurance companies suffer the same issue ISPs do. They're region locked oligopolies, and because of that the small companies can't compete and the big ones don't have to actually care about the customer anymore

2020-01-06 03:02:52 UTC  

I feel like the big problem with Insurance was it comes from your employer, so most of them just built to work with that setup.
there is also who knows how much government messing about, inludeing problems with selling over state lines?

2020-01-06 03:03:18 UTC  

still, the way i see it the problems are with the subversion of a free market.

2020-01-06 03:05:43 UTC  

i'm quite sure the reason why employers even started giveing the "benifits" is because the government had put some ristriction on how much they could pay, so they just found a way around that with insurance and retirement packages.

2020-01-06 03:14:06 UTC  

Now they offer benefits because they can get it for pennies on the dollar and use it's prospective value as a replacement for actually wages. Government jobs do this too.

2020-01-06 03:17:56 UTC  

yup, more government messing with something, the taxes on wages really pushes them to go for the non-taxed options over just paying people a better wage.

2020-01-06 03:24:08 UTC  

The system doesn't need to be completely torn down, but it could definitely stand to have some amputations made

2020-01-06 03:32:11 UTC  

The united states has universal healthcare (according to the world health organization definition), community college and government funded daycare programs too <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2020-01-06 03:33:41 UTC  

I mean the U.S. has subsidized college, just not for all college, including private colleges. Ironically the left wants the governmeant to give trillions in free money to private businesses via college, and indoctrinate a new wave of left-wingers at shit universities like Berkley and Havard, who would have guessed? Meanwhile you can get a practical degree at your local community college and learn how to weld and they just act like this doesn't exist

2020-01-06 03:36:06 UTC  

Also my mom ran a daycare for a long time and got government assistance for it, so we do the same thing. And on top of this, like half of all healthcare is paid for by the government in the U.S. But ironically, businesses by law have to give you health insurance. So, if it was 100% paid for by the governmeant, then the businesses would get out of paying for their worker's health insurance, and instead this burden shifts to the middle class tax payers, which is somehow better

2020-01-06 03:37:01 UTC  

So, yes, pay for all healthcare in the U.S. via taxpayer money instead of big businesses paying for their own worker's healthcare. The businesses that currently pay illegal immigrants 2 dollars an hour and want you to pay their health insurance also think this is a great idea

2020-01-06 03:52:18 UTC  

Mildly off-topic, but wanted to hit home at the reason subsidized college in the US results in crippling debt:

While most can afford basic state universities, specialized schools are private universities range from 25k-75k average tuition.

Our current subsidies for students are FAFSA and the Pell Grant.

- FAFSA offers a max of $6,195, Pell Grants offer $5,920 if you fall under around 50k annual salary.

- In-State public universities are typically $10,230 average tuition.

The rest strattle Federal Student loans carrying an interest rate of 4.45% for undergraduate students and 6% for graduate students.