Message from @Ordis

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2020-02-13 15:53:26 UTC  

1) They're not my responsibility or child
2) If they're willing to commit violence on me or ppl I care about, I will fucking end them.
3) If they cannot be mature and act like an adult, they can get YEETED out of the mature society then.

2020-02-13 15:53:46 UTC  

he's saying be compassionate for the sake of compassion. It's an admirable stance, but even then, I don't reckon you can have the important conversation even if you befriend these people. @Marushia Dark @TheGhostAgent

2020-02-13 15:54:55 UTC  

My compassion is reserved for those who can show compassion themselves. Ppl like that only care about 1 thing and that is power by any means necessary. I've bashed my head against the wall enough times trying to 'win' them over to see a different perspective. I've batted 0. Appealing to both logic and emotion. Neither works.

2020-02-13 15:54:55 UTC  

Ghost, that's fine if you don't wanna take on that responsibility, because you're right - you're not responsible for them. But again, it's about empathy, and trying to put yourself in their shoes and understand how they feel and why they act the way that they do. So this is why I related it to your point about AA. It hurts because you're being judged on superficial characteristics and made to feel like those things that *should* matter *don't.*

2020-02-13 15:55:25 UTC  

My empathy is reserved for those who have the capacity themselves

2020-02-13 15:55:28 UTC  

Again, "the child the village rejects will return to burn it down to feel its warmth."

2020-02-13 15:55:43 UTC  

Yea, that absolutely justifies burning the village lol...

2020-02-13 15:55:54 UTC  

Did you hear me say that?

2020-02-13 15:56:29 UTC  

This just means that children that the village rejects should be solved as a problem in a more permanent way

2020-02-13 15:56:30 UTC  

One sounds like a metaphor but ghost took it as literal

2020-02-13 15:56:55 UTC  

In the mind of the child - as far as they're concerned - it does. But obviously, that behavior cannot be tolerated. However, there is a better way to fix the problem and remove their *motivation* for doing that and avoid it being burned down or punishing the child.

2020-02-13 15:57:16 UTC  

Both in a literal and metaphorical way. Whether by literally burning the village (tho the rioting and violence by leftist or in this case, BLM groups have been documented on many instances) or burning the village down metaphorically by tearing society down as a whole.

2020-02-13 15:57:30 UTC  

You watched *Black Panther*, right?

2020-02-13 15:57:38 UTC  

No.

2020-02-13 15:57:58 UTC  

Please don't tell me you're about to use a fing Marvel movie for your argument...

2020-02-13 15:58:05 UTC  

I mean most ways is basically stablize the Economy in these neighborhoods the other is basically try to fix the household of the Black Family in Cities

2020-02-13 15:58:10 UTC  

It's actually very nuanced.

2020-02-13 15:58:41 UTC  

Black families can only be fixed internally. Trying to guilt trip non-blacks into fixing a problem that is produced internally is an exercise of futility

2020-02-13 15:59:00 UTC  

I've volunteered in inner cities for 3 years until I got utterly red pilled

2020-02-13 15:59:26 UTC  

Well it really comes down to stop making the Government the Father for these people

2020-02-13 15:59:27 UTC  

it took three years?

2020-02-13 15:59:31 UTC  

From volunteering in the Junior Achievement programs to inner city Community Centers to running a nonprofit for 2 yrs, 1yr as VP and 1 yr as P to fundraise scholarships. It was an utter shit show

2020-02-13 15:59:34 UTC  

you have a stubborn mind

2020-02-13 15:59:38 UTC  

Yea well, I'm a slow learner lol

2020-02-13 15:59:54 UTC  

I kept hoping for the best and thinking I can help them or fine a gem here and there

2020-02-13 16:00:10 UTC  

I had enough after 3 yrs of failure

2020-02-13 16:00:21 UTC  

And then for the same community to call me a white supremacist? Yea no, fuck off

2020-02-13 16:00:30 UTC  

Ok, so, in your time volunteering, did you ever encounter people who were the victims of crime?

2020-02-13 16:01:10 UTC  

A quarter of them. One in particular that made me sick. Child was sexually abused by a mother's BF

2020-02-13 16:01:17 UTC  

ok

2020-02-13 16:01:40 UTC  

So ... raping a child is obviously a horrible thing. Probably the *most* horrible thing, yes?

2020-02-13 16:01:52 UTC  

Yes. Get to the point

2020-02-13 16:02:10 UTC  

How did you interact with the child?

2020-02-13 16:02:36 UTC  

The most? no ... transitioning them is worse ... sexual trauma can be buried in memory and forgotten

2020-02-13 16:02:49 UTC  

transitioning can't

2020-02-13 16:02:54 UTC  

I did say probably

2020-02-13 16:03:21 UTC  

I was not told of which child. The section I was in was running activities and reading exercises for specific groups and then a rotation based on the group I'm assigned w/and their age. The child's identity was kept private/confidential and was an ongoing investigation. So us (the volunteers) have no idea who other than the 1 staff that reported the signs

2020-02-13 16:04:10 UTC  

We were merely told that we need to keep this as a private affair and that they are informed of a ongoing investigation. To also look for other signs for othe rkids at the group

2020-02-13 16:05:09 UTC  

Which serves as a function not just for confidentiality and privacy protection for the kid. But stops US, the volunteers from giving undue or overwhelming extra attention to the victim whereby making them feel different or uncomfortable from the group. This may be the only venue of equal treatment and normalcy for them.

2020-02-13 16:05:19 UTC  

Marching off a cliff but nobody has the common sense to yell "Stop!"