Excusing their shitty power grabbing behavior by simply waving it off as making an emotional decision is not very helpfull

So here, let me spell it out for you.

What "Black Lives Matter" wants is ... to matter.
To feel like their lives matter. To feel like black lives matter.

Again, it's right there in the name. That tells you everything. At the moment, they feel like their lives don't matter, whereas other lives - of other races - do, or at least matter more than theirs, when everyone's should matter equally. All lives matter, right? But they feel like we don't really mean that as a society, and use unjust killings by cops as just one of many examples for why they believe that. Whether it's actually true or not, that's how they feel; and we can argue statistics and so forth, but at the end of the day, it changes how you deal with them whether you think they're after power or after a sense of belonging, yes?

IF you take that at face value, then sure. But a) we shouldn't just believe they have honest intentions and b) they're too openly hostile to just talk away their misconceptions.

So the woman who was arguing with you ... you made her feel like she didn't matter. And I get it's not your fault. You didn't know, but my guess is that's why she reacted the way she did ... because isn't that how YOU would react to someone if you felt like you didn't matter to them?

This Bernie Sanders thing must be really scary for the Democratic party.

They don't want him to represent them, but they can't afford to alienate his voters. It's a real damned if you do, damned if you dont situation. They can't shepard hook him off the stage like 2016, but there's no way he'll win

Theyre in a really shitty spot. There are no JFKs or Barack Obama's to drag them out of the fire.

What they believe is irrelevant considering it is the direct opposite of reality. Police are far more hesitant to shoot or engage a black person than a white. There are more shootings AT a white perpetrator than a black when measured against per capita or percentage basis, especially when compared against police engagements. Larry Elder has pointed this inconvenient stat out multiple times every time someone tries to sell the narrative that black ppl are getting shot more.

Then they quickly shift goal posts or move onto something else because they cannot refute the data

As for Bernie Sanders, this dumpster fire is of their own making. They made it, they can now sleep in it

And I completely agree with you on the stats, but the stats are irrelevant because, again, that doesn't address the feeling part, which is ultimately what motivates them to action.

So, the way it was put to me is this ... supposing you have a child and the child comes to you and says they feel like you don't love them. That they don't matter to you. Are you gonna sit there and argue with them about, "Look at all the data I have, all the stats that show how much I care. I bought you 37 presents last Christmas and you've had six birthday parties ..."

No! That's not the way you deal with a problem like that. Instead, you give them a hug and tell your child you love them and of *course* they matter to you. They're the most important thing in the world to you ...

Now, I'm not saying you need to go hug these people and tell them they matter, but to just engage with them seriously as if they did, and listen to their complaints as if they mattered, even if you disagree with the content of the complaint. In fact, I think you'll find they'll be more amendable to listening to the stats if you can actually first engage them as an equal and as someone who feels hurt and needs people to listen to them vent.

... so they're either narcissitic power grabbers or children. LOL. You're not really helping their cause here

1) They're not my responsibility or child
2) If they're willing to commit violence on me or ppl I care about, I will fucking end them.
3) If they cannot be mature and act like an adult, they can get YEETED out of the mature society then.

Lmfao

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1227943796681400320

he's saying be compassionate for the sake of compassion. It's an admirable stance, but even then, I don't reckon you can have the important conversation even if you befriend these people. @Marushia Dark @TheGhostAgent

My compassion is reserved for those who can show compassion themselves. Ppl like that only care about 1 thing and that is power by any means necessary. I've bashed my head against the wall enough times trying to 'win' them over to see a different perspective. I've batted 0. Appealing to both logic and emotion. Neither works.

Ghost, that's fine if you don't wanna take on that responsibility, because you're right - you're not responsible for them. But again, it's about empathy, and trying to put yourself in their shoes and understand how they feel and why they act the way that they do. So this is why I related it to your point about AA. It hurts because you're being judged on superficial characteristics and made to feel like those things that *should* matter *don't.*

My empathy is reserved for those who have the capacity themselves

Again, "the child the village rejects will return to burn it down to feel its warmth."

Yea, that absolutely justifies burning the village lol...

Did you hear me say that?

This just means that children that the village rejects should be solved as a problem in a more permanent way

One sounds like a metaphor but ghost took it as literal

In the mind of the child - as far as they're concerned - it does. But obviously, that behavior cannot be tolerated. However, there is a better way to fix the problem and remove their *motivation* for doing that and avoid it being burned down or punishing the child.

Both in a literal and metaphorical way. Whether by literally burning the village (tho the rioting and violence by leftist or in this case, BLM groups have been documented on many instances) or burning the village down metaphorically by tearing society down as a whole.

You watched *Black Panther*, right?

No.

Please don't tell me you're about to use a fing Marvel movie for your argument...

I mean most ways is basically stablize the Economy in these neighborhoods the other is basically try to fix the household of the Black Family in Cities

It's actually very nuanced.

Black families can only be fixed internally. Trying to guilt trip non-blacks into fixing a problem that is produced internally is an exercise of futility

I've volunteered in inner cities for 3 years until I got utterly red pilled

Well it really comes down to stop making the Government the Father for these people

it took three years?

From volunteering in the Junior Achievement programs to inner city Community Centers to running a nonprofit for 2 yrs, 1yr as VP and 1 yr as P to fundraise scholarships. It was an utter shit show

you have a stubborn mind

Yea well, I'm a slow learner lol

I kept hoping for the best and thinking I can help them or fine a gem here and there

I had enough after 3 yrs of failure

And then for the same community to call me a white supremacist? Yea no, fuck off

Ok, so, in your time volunteering, did you ever encounter people who were the victims of crime?

A quarter of them. One in particular that made me sick. Child was sexually abused by a mother's BF

ok