Message from @Ordis
Discord ID: 677550307714138123
What?
Hi
Hello
I fucked up, lmao
lol
Tried to post the image
Okay, as I'm coming in (I was serving as a welcoming guide for the event for those new and I received complaints, so I headed to her direction) and this is what I heard
"These crackers needs to move aside for us" - ending it w/motioning 1 of her hands to her body/chest area, so I'm assuming to 'us' as her being black, black ppl.
To which I immediately hit her w/my reply of; "Whoa there, how would you like it if some white person came in and dropped the 'n' word like you just did?"
W/someone dropping that loudly at an event, yea I'm there for damage control
You should have just planted a GPS chip on her and then disappear her in the night
>These Ni🅱️🅱️ers needs to move aside for us
It’d be national news
But the C-Word doesn’t have as much “Racial History and Baggage” attached to it
I tried to be as calm and professional as I could to diffuse the situation. The 2 others she was "preaching" to kinda slid away the moment I intervened... so I guess I helped 2 ppl that night? 🤷♂️
They were being preached to against their will lol
Does that mean the N-Word has absolutely no meaning in a country like Latvia or Poland?
Or a Central Asian Former USSR Nation
I was going to say probably if they only know the historical connotation of the word and not the way some people in the hood use it
Spppp
A white person can drop the word "nigger" under VERY strict guide rules outlined by Chris Rock. 10 pts to those who know that skit lol
Ok, so firstly, let me just say that, if this is a professional event, she obviously should have exercised more tact than that. So I agree with you, the actual thing she said was not appropriate. However, I think the way in which you handled it - as well-meaning as it was - could have been more effective as well. So like you admitted you just overheard this out of context. I'm guessing you don't know this woman, you don't know what they're talking about or anything. So right off the bat, just going by what you've recounted, I think you came on too strongly.
Maybe a better way of saying the same thing would have been, "Excuse me, ma'am. I couldn't help but overhear your conversation just now and you realize this is a professional event and I felt what you just said was quite disrespectful."
Maybe she still gets angry, but it's a lot softer and more diplomatic than just walking up and saying, "Hey! You can't talk like that!"
Like I have a friend who went on a server I was a mod on to literally fight the mods so he can say the N-word with an a
20 pts to those who don't give a shit and are Chad enough to say nigger instead of N-word
LOL
I didn't outright tell her she can't speak like that, but rather tried to get her to exercise some form of empathy in how she'd feel if the tables were flipped
Her answer showed utter lack of such capacity
So that set the tone for the rest of the interaction
Like I said, my empathy is reserved for those who do have it. If she paused and didn't snap at me in the way she did, I'd have taken a bit more lenient approach following. Instead, she choose poorly
> she choose poorly
This makes it sound like you later pummeled her into the concrete with your spiked bat.
LOL
Mentally maybe
But no, I'm not into physically harming ppl
weak
Again, she might ultimately have responded the same way to me, I don't know. But would you say it's *more likely* she'd have responded better to me?
Tho I suspect I may have lost my professional cool the moment she called me a white supremacist. I had to immediately disengage so I don't get sucked into saying shit publicly that is not venue appropriate
Perhaps? Tho if I were a betting man, I'd wager against you in having any different reaction from her or concluding engagement
Well, if we're measuring the odds, I at least have actual examples I can point to of progressives whom I've engaged with in discussions like this and they treated me well despite disagreement. TYT and Feminist Frequency being the most well-known examples I can think of. I also have talked briefly with the president of BLM NY, Hawk Newsome as another data point.
And the only difference, really, is the empathy I brought with me to the conversation.
And the end result? Did they double down or actually change their mind and 180'd?
I didn't have the opportunity to talk with them long enough to make radical progress, but the conversations ended pleasantly and I shifted them a few degrees closer to me than someone who thinks they're only in it for power would have. So that's something. Proof of concept at least. And if more people treated them like that, I'd be willing to bet they wouldn't just ghost us. Because why would they?
I gave up trying to understand leftists. My imaginations simply aren't creative enough to go down their twisted clown world logic