Message from @Ordis

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2020-02-13 16:07:49 UTC  

Maru, you're basically saying BLM are children, and I would technically agree with you.

2020-02-13 16:08:36 UTC  

To me it sounds more like treat them like children

2020-02-13 16:09:43 UTC  

Yes... we're going in circles atm around 1 overriding theme. They're children and are incapable of handling their emotions... which is probably the most benign explanation of their actions compared to the more malignant one, power grabbing

2020-02-13 16:10:48 UTC  

power grabbing is way too smart a motive for it to be accurate

2020-02-13 16:10:51 UTC  

Sigh ... well, I can almost guarantee that, were I in that same situation, the same would not have happened to me. Even though I agree with you on all the stats and everything. Because how I would have handled it would have been different.

I wouldn't have said what you said. "What's that? You think *I'M* a white supremacist? Oh my god, why would you say that? What? No, *of course* black lives matter. I agree, there are racists in this country and times when police use excessive force, but hold on, it's more nuanced than that ..."

And then see how it goes from there. Pacing and leading.

Again, I get that you're not interested in helping them and it's not your job to help them, but do you think that maybe, just maybe, she'd have reacted differently to what I said vs what you said?

2020-02-13 16:11:42 UTC  

I tried that in the past. Got me no where lol

2020-02-13 16:11:58 UTC  

You're talking to someone who volunteered in the inner city ghettos for 3 yrs...

2020-02-13 16:12:06 UTC  

Remind me again what you said to this woman before she went off about lynchings?

2020-02-13 16:12:17 UTC  

<-- Lived in a ghetto for 6 years

2020-02-13 16:13:02 UTC  

tldr was how she should not be so casually using the word "crackers" when addressing white ppl. How would she feel if some white person used the "n" word to address black ppl? And then she replied w/that rofl

2020-02-13 16:13:27 UTC  

That shit escalated right quick

2020-02-13 16:13:53 UTC  

Remind me what she said before that?

2020-02-13 16:14:38 UTC  

Paraphrased theme is boiled down to - White ppl needs to move aside for black ppl in society

2020-02-13 16:15:19 UTC  

The non-paraphrased version is actually more useful to me here, so I can think about what she wanted without it filtered through you

2020-02-13 16:15:31 UTC  

I'm coming into this convo midway as she's mouthing off loudly at a reception area to set things in context. It's meant ot be a professional networking event

2020-02-13 16:15:41 UTC  

based on what she ACTUALLY said, not what you interpreted her as having said

2020-02-13 16:16:13 UTC  

Well unless they had a Recording device that is going to be hard when you come midway in convo

2020-02-13 16:16:26 UTC  

I'll settle for close enough

2020-02-13 16:16:47 UTC  

What?

2020-02-13 16:17:00 UTC  

Hi

2020-02-13 16:17:08 UTC  

Hello

2020-02-13 16:17:15 UTC  

I fucked up, lmao

2020-02-13 16:17:19 UTC  

lol

2020-02-13 16:17:21 UTC  

Tried to post the image

2020-02-13 16:17:34 UTC  

Okay, as I'm coming in (I was serving as a welcoming guide for the event for those new and I received complaints, so I headed to her direction) and this is what I heard
"These crackers needs to move aside for us" - ending it w/motioning 1 of her hands to her body/chest area, so I'm assuming to 'us' as her being black, black ppl.
To which I immediately hit her w/my reply of; "Whoa there, how would you like it if some white person came in and dropped the 'n' word like you just did?"

2020-02-13 16:18:17 UTC  

W/someone dropping that loudly at an event, yea I'm there for damage control

2020-02-13 16:18:33 UTC  

You should have just planted a GPS chip on her and then disappear her in the night

2020-02-13 16:18:38 UTC  

>These Ni🅱️🅱️ers needs to move aside for us

2020-02-13 16:18:49 UTC  

It’d be national news

2020-02-13 16:19:14 UTC  

But the C-Word doesn’t have as much “Racial History and Baggage” attached to it

2020-02-13 16:19:17 UTC  

I tried to be as calm and professional as I could to diffuse the situation. The 2 others she was "preaching" to kinda slid away the moment I intervened... so I guess I helped 2 ppl that night? 🤷‍♂️

2020-02-13 16:19:34 UTC  

They were being preached to against their will lol

2020-02-13 16:19:50 UTC  

Does that mean the N-Word has absolutely no meaning in a country like Latvia or Poland?

2020-02-13 16:20:22 UTC  

Or a Central Asian Former USSR Nation

2020-02-13 16:21:33 UTC  

I was going to say probably if they only know the historical connotation of the word and not the way some people in the hood use it

2020-02-13 16:21:56 UTC  

Spppp

2020-02-13 16:22:19 UTC  

A white person can drop the word "nigger" under VERY strict guide rules outlined by Chris Rock. 10 pts to those who know that skit lol

2020-02-13 16:22:46 UTC  

Ok, so firstly, let me just say that, if this is a professional event, she obviously should have exercised more tact than that. So I agree with you, the actual thing she said was not appropriate. However, I think the way in which you handled it - as well-meaning as it was - could have been more effective as well. So like you admitted you just overheard this out of context. I'm guessing you don't know this woman, you don't know what they're talking about or anything. So right off the bat, just going by what you've recounted, I think you came on too strongly.

Maybe a better way of saying the same thing would have been, "Excuse me, ma'am. I couldn't help but overhear your conversation just now and you realize this is a professional event and I felt what you just said was quite disrespectful."

Maybe she still gets angry, but it's a lot softer and more diplomatic than just walking up and saying, "Hey! You can't talk like that!"

2020-02-13 16:23:01 UTC  

Like I have a friend who went on a server I was a mod on to literally fight the mods so he can say the N-word with an a

2020-02-13 16:23:07 UTC  

20 pts to those who don't give a shit and are Chad enough to say nigger instead of N-word